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Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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I'm not sure I agree that the people doing the search are the customers here

I’m really curious to know who exactly you think are Google Search’s customers in the context of this thread about SEO.

Advertisers?

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I agree that the people doing the search are the customers here

I’m really curious to know who exactly you think are Google Search’s customers in the context of this thread about SEO.

The advertisers

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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I’m really curious to know who exactly you think are Google Search’s customers in the context of this thread about SEO.

Advertisers?

but think logically for just a second, why would advertisers advertise their turd if they could just have their turd show up on the search results for free?

For a turd sandwich to work, you have to wrap your turd (ads) with high quality results so people actually search on Google and then you can show them the turd along with the good stuff.

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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What happend to the good'ol sitemap.xml? You'll probably find an npm package with lots of dependencies that'll generate that sitemap for you if that's what you need...

I’m failing to see how this isn’t just “hey look at my sitemap”!

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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post #29

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I'm not sure I agree that the people doing the search are the customers here

I’m really curious to know who exactly you think are Google Search’s customers in the context of this thread about SEO.

People paying ads to show up on google's users search results are google's customers

people using google's free services to see those google results that have gone to shit since the past 10 years or so, and also are full page of ads without ad blockers, are google's product, which is acquired through offering free product and services that hook those customers to stay hooked even through the enshittification that has proceeded on those since the web 2.0 golden era

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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Advertisers?

but think logically for just a second, why would advertisers advertise their turd if they could just have their turd show up on the search results for free? For a turd sandwich to work, you have to wrap your turd (ads) with high quality results so people actually search on Google and then you can show them the turd along with the good stuff.

plenty of turds do show up on google search engines, ai generated copy pasted mumbo jumbo full of more google ads inpage

somewhat google is happy to serve you turd they can double dip on

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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The annoying thing about this is that it will ruin this feature for everyone else. I, and many others, use this for requesting to index time sensitive content.

Yes and no. I mean, just because something gets indexed doesn't mean Google values it and is willing to expose its customers to it. The consistent problem with SEO is that most SEOs don't understand Google's business model. They don't understand Google is going to best serve its customers (i.e., those doing the search). SEOs (and their clients) need to understand that getting Google to index a turd isn't going to cha…

For a company not interested in pointing their customers to turds, they sure do point them to a lot of turds.

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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? "what I've noticed"...Google only indexing if a site has backlinks or is submitted by owner. Uh..yeah, how else would google know about a new URL? C'mon. This just seems like the usual SEO obsession/grift with some 'secret' way to get things done. It's straightfwd these days. Are you saying none of the pages you're queuing up are linked to each other? Most cases they would be in some way right? So the spider will start indexing them all based on a top url submission or a few key urls. Do event/job board sites really need all of their pages to be indexed immediately?

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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I recently launched a mini project and was shocked at how difficult and long it took to get any of its pages properly indexed on Google.

It's almost as if Google is actively trying -not- to index anything as a way to reduce spam, by forcing the people who really care to jump through 100 hoops.

A great way for the dark web remains dark.

Re: Show HN: Open-source script to get your site indexed on Google

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So, Google stopped automating indexation because spam, humanity finds new way to resume automation to again propagate spam. It seems Google is trapped in its toxic game of search engine optimization.

Eh, you can get google to index your site by just submitting a site map, it just takes a little longer.

If "a little longer" is six months+, you're absolutely right.
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