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Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

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post #17

Where are the actual content payloads stored?

Currently, on GitHub but could be anywhere.

Need to balance the freedom to publish anonymously with the risk of people claiming credit for other people’s work.

Perhaps the platform should allow any url to be published and restrict tipping to only authenticated users’ content.

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#32

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Lol! It’s not my intention for this to be a get rich quick scheme but there are running costs (user registration and TheGraph network payments). If the platform is to be self sustaining it needs to cover its costs. Is there a reasonable long term platform fee that you would find acceptable? Say 1% or 0.1%?

So it sounds like you can DoS the service through user registration and graph usage?

Yes, that I need to solve

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#33

Do you have a link to the contracts?

Source: https://github.com/Bubble-Protocol/seedling/tree/main/src/co...

UserRegistry: https://polygonscan.com/address/0x5Ec6A3284049E8b3e5966882fd...

ContentRegistry: https://polygonscan.com/address/0xF86eFfA878F484DF4a2D2d1703...

TipJar: https://polygonscan.com/address/0x1c4a6b233DABf5566Ae7196657...

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#35
post #3

If there is requirement to link a github account, then there isn't any kind of decentralization, as github is then the one centralized point. And well, the original idea of blogs was completely decentralized (“there is this thing accessible through HTTP”) with bunch of ad-hoc API surfaces for metadata and “pingbacks” (ie. back references). Then in the last few years there is Medium. Bottom line: You are solving solve…

I agree, if you have to use github they have pages.

A better thing to use to be decentralised is ipfs. Which worse comes to worst if your file gets unhosted then do your own node.

Or Nostr would be good and might avoid needing a blockchain (and thus the expense and complexity)

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#36
post #3

If there is requirement to link a github account, then there isn't any kind of decentralization, as github is then the one centralized point. And well, the original idea of blogs was completely decentralized (“there is this thing accessible through HTTP”) with bunch of ad-hoc API surfaces for metadata and “pingbacks” (ie. back references). Then in the last few years there is Medium. Bottom line: You are solving solve…

I agree, if you have to use github they have pages. A better thing to use to be decentralised is ipfs. Which worse comes to worst if your file gets unhosted then do your own node. Or Nostr would be good and might avoid needing a blockchain (and thus the expense and complexity)

IPFS and Nostr are both brilliant but they have their limitations. The main issue I see for an app like seedling is that by submitting your content you lose control over it. You cannot edit or delete.

Ideally many different hosting options should be supported.

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, if you have to use github they have pages. A better thing to use to be decentralised is ipfs. Which worse comes to worst if your file gets unhosted then do your own node. Or Nostr would be good and might avoid needing a blockchain (and thus the expense and complexity)

IPFS and Nostr are both brilliant but they have their limitations. The main issue I see for an app like seedling is that by submitting your content you lose control over it. You cannot edit or delete. Ideally many different hosting options should be supported.

You could create a Nostr protocol with a delete message, but the problem there is of course it would be a "soft delete", since anyone scanning the messages under the hood can see the original. In some sense a regular site is like that (you could see it on Internet Archive, but maybe that is less likely to be done, and it is coming from a secondary source anyway).

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

#38
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I don't think it's unbalanced to call BS on a service claiming to be decentralized that in fact relies on a single centralized service they do not control, twice over. (Once for auth, second for content).

Yeah, I guess it’s more accurate to call it an [almost] fully decentralised discovery service rn. Decentralised hosting should come later. The almost is for the oauth server, which can be improved by adding other independent trusted servers in a permissioned network.

Totally fair! Sorry if my initial response was perhaps a tad harsh... my bullshit-0-meter goes to a million for anything even vaguely crypto/blockchain related.

Re: Show HN: Seedling – A Decentralised Medium

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it sounds like you can DoS the service through user registration and graph usage?

Yes, that I need to solve

So the decentralised system relies on you as a SPOF dealing with abuse and paying the bills?
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