I really wish something like this existed for ancient greek.
Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers
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#32I love the design of the site and it's really a dream for reading translated poetry! I enjoy reading a handful of Italian poets (and translated poetry in general), and a website like this for German, Polish, etc poetry would be lovely. Would you ever think of open sourcing this for others to attempt this for their own languages? I'd really love to see a couple poems from the notoriously hard to translate Giacomo Leop…
Thanks! Yes, I was thinking of cleaning up the repo and make it public in a while, though honestly it's not too pretty ^^ And yes, Leopardi is coming: I have Il Sabato del villaggio almost ready to go :)
One thing that bothers me is that the cultural context is lost. I am completely oblivious to things that would be obvious to a native speaker. For instance, I like some poems by Christian Morgenstern, but is that like saying I like a Hallmark card or a Thomas Kincaid painting? I suspect it's a little bit like the latter, which is fine. The Germans I have spoken with had no interest in poetry, good or bad, so they couldn't offer any feedback.
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#33I would add the year of composition in the list: 'Oct 10, Tacciono i boschi e i fiumi (1591), by Torquato Tasso'
The voice is quite good.
How will we submit requests?
Today (15 Oct 2023) is the centenary of the birth of Italo Calvino. You could have added "Le città e la memoria 1. [Diomira]", the proper opening, from "Le città invisibili".
> Partendosi di là e andando tre giornate verso levante, l’uomo si trova a Diomira, città con sessanta cupole d’argento, statue in bronzo di tutti gli dei, vie lastricate in stagno, un teatro di cristallo, un gallo d’oro che canta ogni mattina su una torre. Tutte queste bellezze il viaggiatore già conosce per averle viste anche in altre città. Ma la proprietà di questa è che chi vi arriva una sera di settembre, quando le giornate s’accorciano e le lampade multicolori s’accendono tutte insieme sulle porte delle friggitorie, e da una terrazza una voce di donna grida: uh!, gli viene da invidiare quelli che ora pensano d’aver già vissuto una sera uguale a questa e d’esser stati quella volta felici.
Re: Show HN: "Interactive" Italian Poetry for English Speakers
#34Very cool project. I love how much thought you put into it, it really shows. One thing is I wanted to make you aware of is that the player doesn't work on MacOS Safari. Another thing that's really minor is that the font ligatures are a little distracting. Still though, amazing work. I love it and I'll keep checking in and seeing how it gets updated. I really wish something like this existed for ancient greek.
I should have tested it on Apple stuff :/ Thanks for reporting, I'll check it out
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#35Very great initiative. I would add the year of composition in the list: ' Oct 10, Tacciono i boschi e i fiumi (1591), by Torquato Tasso ' The voice is quite good. How will we submit requests? Today (15 Oct 2023) is the centenary of the birth of Italo Calvino. You could have added "Le città e la memoria 1. [Diomira]", the proper opening, from "Le città invisibili". > Partendosi di là e andando tre giornate verso levan…
There's a list-by-composition date page, but indeed, that makes a lot of sense. Will add!
> How will we submit requests?
Awwww please do :)
I assumed an email would be best (see Contact link in the footer), but maybe something more social? I made accounts for mastodon [1], twitter (@italian_poetry) and reddit [2] (plus BuyMeACoffee [3], for the most adventurous ^_^), which I should put somewhere on the website.
What do you think would be best? When trying to put this website out there I had to realize the hard way that I suck at social media...
[1] https://zirk.us/@italianpoetry
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#36He says that he sometimes makes it rhyme, but only if it doesn't do too much damage to the English.
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Thanks! Yes, I was thinking of cleaning up the repo and make it public in a while, though honestly it's not too pretty ^^ And yes, Leopardi is coming: I have Il Sabato del villaggio almost ready to go :)
So I've studied German a little. I have no conversational skills and little facility reading it. But I really enjoy German poetry in the original language. My theory is that it's like the Guitar Hero version of speaking the language - it lets me play along with an expert, even though I am a rank neophyte. I would love to see this in German. One thing that bothers me is that the cultural context is lost. I am complete…
I guess that Kincaid paintings are considered subpar by connoisseurs. That wouldnʼt be the thing with Morgenstern. He is popular, but not that popular, and was sufficiently unconventional at his time to be seen as a genuine creative artist.
That is a comparison in terms of connoisseurship (or snobbery). If I had to make a comparison in terms of how the workʼs nature, Iʼd say that the shorter poems are like Roger Price droodles.
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Thanks! Yes, I was thinking of cleaning up the repo and make it public in a while, though honestly it's not too pretty ^^ And yes, Leopardi is coming: I have Il Sabato del villaggio almost ready to go :)
So I've studied German a little. I have no conversational skills and little facility reading it. But I really enjoy German poetry in the original language. My theory is that it's like the Guitar Hero version of speaking the language - it lets me play along with an expert, even though I am a rank neophyte. I would love to see this in German. One thing that bothers me is that the cultural context is lost. I am complete…
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Your voice is not terrible, I enjoyed it quit a lot. By the way kudos to you, I'm Italian and that was interesting for me too! I'd love to have it in other languages too. Oh, and also I love the website vibes! The right mix between 2000 websites and contemporary elegance!
I was actually thinking of doing the same for Latin... Now the infrastructure is built, so the effort should be much smaller (but I'd need of course much more support from an expert ^^ ). Do you think it might have an audience?
There is a big Latin & Ancient Greek server on Discord, and the people over there would love your project for sure. Lots of them being Italians, it would be even better. Since you're wondering about the help of experts, there would be no better place to go to than there.
I dream of a unified platform for the classics - translation, archive of books, and so on... equidem adjuvabo si quidam tamen capiat umquam consilium. Vale!