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Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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post #11

A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change. One of the big issues I see with Reddit right now, is that we the community never "owned" the data. Now that the site owner's motives changed, we're stuck in this weird…

"community shares ownership "

How can this work practically or legally ? Any real world concrete ideas ? I am open to learning more.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN is more or less moderated on similar guidelines, and the discussions here are better than on most online spaces I've been a part of. I understand that one cannot draw a line to clearly separate categories from categories, but that doesn't mean that categories don't exist. As to the definition of these terms, I was only thinking of their "common sense" meaning.

What is the common sense meaning of something being "political"? Do conversations around minimum wage count? What about current LGBT issues? What is the common sense meaning of bigotry?

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Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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post #11

A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change. One of the big issues I see with Reddit right now, is that we the community never "owned" the data. Now that the site owner's motives changed, we're stuck in this weird…

> A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change. Looking at this from your perspective, you have a really good point here. And I don't know exactly what to say to you except that, at the end of the day, with anything…

I don’t think there is anything that you can do.

The only reason people switch from old communities to new ones is because of a vastly better UI for your average user. See the switch from Usenet to forums to Stack Overflow / Facebook or w/e. In the case of Digg to reddit, Digg’s UI got worse.

The only thing anyone can do is make a new app/website with vastly better UI and then live through your values accordingly.

Most of your blog post is about moderation/monetization and that’s important, but to be honest, it doesn’t speak directly to your average user.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#34

> No porn. What is porn? > No politics. What is political? > No racism or any form of bigotry. What is bigoted? > A soft rule of: Don't be an asshole. What is an asshole?

HN is more or less moderated on similar guidelines, and the discussions here are better than on most online spaces I've been a part of. I understand that one cannot draw a line to clearly separate categories from categories, but that doesn't mean that categories don't exist. As to the definition of these terms, I was only thinking of their "common sense" meaning.

> HN is more or less moderated on similar guidelines

There’s plenty of political discussion on this site (the top 5 includes about ongoing EU legislation). There’s obviously some pretty heavy-handed moderation of it (not that it is inappropriate for this particular community), but no general forum will get very far with such a rule.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#35

This just sounds like Reddit without solving any of the big problems of reddit. I know you said you don't believe in federation, but why not solve the problems with federation.. or if you think that's entirely the wrong approach, then figure out some other way of solving the issues that federation attempts to address. Those issues don't disappear just because it's your project.

Wikipedia, although a non-profit, is not federated; it's a centralized platform. It doesn't seem to me that it's centralization that's necessarily the problem, although, I agree with you, it often is.

So are you planning to register Discuit as a non-profit, and turn over control to a board of trustees with half of the members elected by the community?

That's the example Wikimedia has set.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#36

> No porn. What is porn? > No politics. What is political? > No racism or any form of bigotry. What is bigoted? > A soft rule of: Don't be an asshole. What is an asshole?

If these are the rules I'm pretty sure the site already lost the battle against reddit

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#38
> I don't believe federated platforms will ever become mainstream. They have a whole host of problems, not the least of which is that they're too complicated for most people to use. This platform is not, therefore, federated.

These problems will go away. There is no usability problem or bug in the fediverse software that is inherit to its federated nature.

On the other hand, your centralized software will always be centralized. To me this is already a "bug" that can not be fixed.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#39

> No porn. What is porn? > No politics. What is political? > No racism or any form of bigotry. What is bigoted? > A soft rule of: Don't be an asshole. What is an asshole?

HN is more or less moderated on similar guidelines, and the discussions here are better than on most online spaces I've been a part of. I understand that one cannot draw a line to clearly separate categories from categories, but that doesn't mean that categories don't exist. As to the definition of these terms, I was only thinking of their "common sense" meaning.

"No politics" is not a useful or viable rule. Any time that two humans interact with one another, even indirectly, there are politics involved.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#40

How come most of these new reddit clones choose a style that aligns more with "new reddit" than "old reddit"? Which I thought we disliked? Please use the full-width of the screen.

Most people use new Reddit. But not most people looking for an alternative maybe.
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