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Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#31
I can’t believe that people use closed source auth solutions. As a security engineer, I am so thankful that Ory exists. If you can’t run your auth stack locally, your engineers will find work arounds for the inevitable pain/frustration due to some undocumented behavior that they can’t self service a root cause understanding.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#32
post #3

A great example of a website that completely fails to clearly explain how it's different from the competition.

Linked from the home page: https://www.ory.sh/comparisons/

Which requires viewers be authenticated to show anything. Bleh.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#33

I want to love ory but honestly I have no idea how to integrate it like I can with supertokens. Literally looking to move from supertokens and have spent 4 hours trying to grok how to make the change. The docs are OK but how the products interconnect is super opaque.

Why are you looking to move from SuperTokens? -cofounder here

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#34
post #3

A great example of a website that completely fails to clearly explain how it's different from the competition.

I agree that we can do better here. Do you have a comparison in mind that you really liked?

I understood its something to do with auth but even the comparison pages didn't clarify in meaningful ways how it's different. I don't see how this could help me get more users - that's my job not yours.

I was also confused what a network has to do with auth. Is this some kind of distributed auth product? Who knows.

Also, I don't think anyone looking at a saas auth product would consider rolling their own. Presumably they're on your site because they aren't interested in that.

So I just didn't know what your value proposition is.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linked from the home page: https://www.ory.sh/comparisons/

Which requires viewers be authenticated to show anything. Bleh.

Scrolling down from the "create an account" button, all the "Ory vs [thing]" links from that page open up just fine for me.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linked from the home page: https://www.ory.sh/comparisons/

Which requires viewers be authenticated to show anything. Bleh.

Just click the comparison links, e.g., ory vs keycloak leads to:

https://www.ory.sh/comparisons/ory-vs-keycloak/

the chart may be hidden "below the fold," so scroll down.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#37
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their cookie banner is provided by a 3rd party and I can’t see how it is non-compliant unless there is something I’m missing.

Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant? Seems like it's 1 extra click to disallow compared to allow, so yeah, non-compliant. Should be exactly as easy to say yes as saying no. In this case it's not.

> Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant?

Not at all. My point was that they are not offering that as product.

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#38

Founder / project creator here. Ory Kratos has been in development since 2018 and is approaching version 1.0! If you have any questions about the project, tech, flows, or Ory as a whole I’m here to help :)

Is this an alternative to Keycloak? One thing Keycloak supports is the ability to create multiple realms in order to use one instance for different groups of users and applications. Does Kratos support something like that?

Their recommendation for multitennancy is to create a db schema per realm and spin up separate instances

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#39
post #16

A while ago my team needed exactly this kind of auth solution, so the eng team reached out to Ory to clarify some technical questions that weren't covered by the docs. We were super enthusiastic about Ory. It looked solid, was open-source, and ticked all the right boxes. We got an immediate response by a very motivated sales person who insisted to be connected with management and refused to put us in touch with anybo…

Their Slack workspace is quite helpful

Re: Show HN: Open-source Auth0 alternative Ory Kratos v0.13 released – nearing v1.0

#40

Founder / project creator here. Ory Kratos has been in development since 2018 and is approaching version 1.0! If you have any questions about the project, tech, flows, or Ory as a whole I’m here to help :)

Just curious, when will it get LDAP/AD Connectivity? I saw here https://www.ory.sh/comparisons/ory-vs-keycloak/ that it doesn't have this feature

LE: I guess it's being tracked in this GitHub issue: https://github.com/ory/kratos/issues/274

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