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Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by trdtaylor1 »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

You are not wrong; I did not think about this until you brought it up but it's a great plan to wrap nearly free customers, then get in bed with Health Insurers to reduce cost of care by recording and transcribing all doctor conversations, then alerting to possible fraud or excessive care based on patient input against your huge DB of patient interactions. Historically recording of the patient DR interaction has always been incredibly hard sell to do for the management types. Then insurers mandate chat capture with the visit summary billed to them. Love it!

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by jimnotgym »

avgDev wrote: post #16

I feel uncomfortable knowing doctor would use anything like this. How are 2 party consent states handled? Is this HIPPA compliant?

Imagine a doctor instead mumbled his notes in a non native accent into a dictation machine, and had someone on minimum wage type them up?

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by nickphx »

jimnotgym wrote: post #25
orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

Last time I went to the doctor it was free. I just like to point out the small advantages of living in Europe now and again

I'm not sure you understand the definition of free.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by avgDev »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

If my doctor is googling he is doing his job.

He has medical knowledge which allows him to sort through information.

Any developer who doesn't google today is hindering his ability to develop and slowing the development process. Just like the dev cannot hold all the algorithms and language caveats/syntax in his head, a physician cannot hold all the information in his brain. He may not be familiar with symptoms or might be googling to see if there is anything "new" as pertaining to a patients specific issue.

There was a time steroid injections were the go to for tendon injuries, recently science came out that it results in worse long term outcomes and PT should be the first line treatment.

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Post by mr_mitm »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

I would want my doctor to Google things. No one knows everything, but I expect an expert to know where to look. If he used Google the same way I do, he'd know which results are reliable. Doctors who finish med school and never consult a resource ever again cannot be good doctors.

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Post by ar7hur »

priyanmuthu wrote: post #10

My worry is verification of facts. What if the model summarized incorrect facts, and it gets added to the medical history? How can doctors easily verify and fix things?

Thanks for your comment. We clearly show a diff to the doctor before updating patient records. We are very explicit that they should check it (and edit if necessary).

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Post by sharemywin »

matsemann wrote: post #21
orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

Last time I asked a developer to fix a bug, he charged me $300 to google the api docs..! But this isn't even about the doctor asking GPT, this is transcribing the video call so the journaling becomes easier and the doctor can spend more time with their patients. A good thing, no?

I'll be happy to do that for like $200 as long as I can use ChatGPT

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by moomoo11 »

avgDev wrote: post #16

I feel uncomfortable knowing doctor would use anything like this. How are 2 party consent states handled? Is this HIPPA compliant?

HIPAA only applies to healthcare providers I think. Private companies like the extension maker can do whatever they want. At least that’s what someone on the internet told me and maybe it’s wrong.
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