Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
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Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#32Not to be flippant, but in what way is Excel not a no-code / self-service BI / Data Analytics tool? Or where Google Sheets is heading? Serious question. The average non-technical user goes first to Excel or Excel-like things.
Excel applications also tend to start rather innocently where something rather simple is programmed in the cellular structure. People quickly feel empowered and begin adding more and more dynamic aspects. At some point spreadsheet based applications turn more into some unmaintainble monstrosity that have all sorts of business and application logic embedded in them that need to get handed elsewhere and someone else familiar with "code" or software design has to translate everything to.
I've been involved in more of this than I care to admit for business applications and it's usually a nightmare because the applications become more critical to the business than anyone but the spreadsheet maintainer is aware of. Suddenly something new and time critical is needed or an error is discovered and the person who created it largely can't remember everything they created and why, so it turns into an software archeological endeavor.
I've seen notebooks with dozens of sheets containing all sorts of embedded data structures on different sheet with all sorts of relationships inside and outside of sheets and nightmare chains of conditionals added in that I've had to sift through.
Sometimes the user then discovers macros or VBA and it becomes a dice roll if things are better or worse (usually better because at least you can quickly follow all the embedded relationships even if they're not well structured unlike logic embedded in cells with all sorts of spatial references you need 10 copies open to trace and debug).
Excel is hardly "no code" it just has a nice beginner learning curve that gets people into dangerous situations before they know they are. I'm not entirely sure about the direction of Google Sheets as I haven't used it in years.
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#33No, thanks.
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#34Not to be flippant, but in what way is Excel not a no-code / self-service BI / Data Analytics tool? Or where Google Sheets is heading? Serious question. The average non-technical user goes first to Excel or Excel-like things.
I don't think Excel or Google Sheets are the right interface for diverse data sources that have different query styles and different connection types. Visually the space in each Cell is just pretty constrained.
I am building an open source tool [0] for these kinds of workflows where you need to combine queries, scripting in Python/JavaScript/etc, graphing, dashboards, email exports in one place. It's very similar to tablum.io (this post) but instead of doing any ETL it's just a smart client for joining data client-side.
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many (read most) won't have a professional Facebook or Google account. My boss would not be happy if I had to use a Facebook account on my work machine. And who evaluates BI tools in their free time?
There's also Google login, do you have gmail? Is it OK to log in via a corporate gmail?
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#36No information on pricing and social only logins? I was interested in this product, but no thanks. At the very least if you're not ready to commit you could provide "beta" pricing for a year until you get that figured out.
Would I expect to spend $1k annually? $10k? $100k? More?
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#37The dream of no code lives on. I’ve tried many no code tools over the decades. As an individual and as a group. Ease of use is really important. But I think easy for Python programmers is better than easy for people to click. Logic is logic, so whether you program in code or via some wack gui, you still need programmers. Every time it’s come down to regretting committing to a closed, proprietary “programming language…
If you are an accomplished Python programmer, you might code a solution or (e.g. if you want to do something ad hoc quickly) use a no-code tool.
If you aren't a programmer, your choice is typically: learn Python, use Excel, wait for a programmer to do it for you or use a no-code tool. A no-code tool will often be by far the best solution.
Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are desktop alternatives (such as Easy Data Transform, Alteryx and Tableau Prep) where your data stays on your machine. Which helps with latency, as well as privacy.
In this instance I'm referring to my personal data that can be pulled from social profiles, not the data to be analysed. :)
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#39Re: Show HN: Tablum.io – No-Code Self-Service BI/Data Analytics Tool
#40The site wants me to log in via Google or Facebook. No, thanks.