Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
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Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#32Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
Italians aren't discriminated against en masse in the US, so poking fun at the language is seen as "punching down".
Neither are Asian Americans? Despite what the media wants you to believe
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#33Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
Italians aren't discriminated against en masse in the US, so poking fun at the language is seen as "punching down".
See: https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/immigration/italian/...
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#34Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
Italian Americans don't have to worry about this sort of institutional racism (at least not in generations), so it's easier to assume these jokes are honest attempts at humor vs bigotry.
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#35Next one was Effusione Mortando, possibly available at the Pastaway Cafe over by the Piazza di Spagna.
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#36Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#37As a native Italian speaker I think that the tradition is safe from AI for now... Uussimanto or Dantentandim doesn't quite sound like Italian ;) And there might be a bit too many "Effusione" names :)
Yeah, 90% of the ones I generated start with Effusione. Must be a popular technique in fake-Italy.
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#38Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
In my lifetime, I've witnessed first hand a lot of racism, and just outright violence towards Asians and Blacks, including institutional racism. I believe that's the difference. Italian Americans don't have to worry about this sort of institutional racism (at least not in generations ), so it's easier to assume these jokes are honest attempts at humor vs bigotry.
I don't mind these movies at all, but there do seem to be double standards.
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#39Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
> Any native American can help me understand the difference between making fun of Asians/Blacks/other groups and italo-americans?
You know what "native american" means in (American) English, don't you?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United...
Re: Show HN: A generator of Fake Italian Coffee names
#40Very nice, these fake works upset me as well. As a foreigner I do not understand how those made up nonsensical words (common in coffee, car model names, appliances, websites), or that stereotypical "mamma mia i speak-a english-a language" intonation aren't considered on par with making fun of the Asian stereotypical pronunciation or making up words like "Ching Chong Pling Plong" to sell something. Any native American…
Italians aren't discriminated against en masse in the US, so poking fun at the language is seen as "punching down".