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Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by skinnymuch »

sam_goody wrote: post #10

You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…

This sounds..not good. You know how I know how much of a cog some one is? How much they are being paid.

Putting a bow on top of work that pays peanuts is worse in my opinion than being honest. Your tactics appear to try to manipulate underpaid or lowly paid cogs into not believing they are what the company and managers truly see them as - just that.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by skinnymuch »

weeboid wrote: post #14

I honestly can't tell if this is satire or no; leaning towards former

I don’t think it is satire.

I find the comments that want to spin cogs into a good thing by changing the name and manipulating the imaging so lowly people don’t know how you they are really viewed, worse than any thing this app is doing, satire or not.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by namelosw »

sanitycheck wrote: post #7

What next, human Kubernetes? (No no no it's a Joke, Deliveroo and Uber staff, don't you dare paste that into Slack)

Human Kubernetes == System Admin. It's already there.

But yeah, it could be a fancy new word for VC haha.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by benjaminjosephw »

> Outsource tedious, repetitive and boring work to our workforce in just a couple of clicks.

This is exactly how you create an environment that is just asking for regulation and rightly so if you show such disregard for other people.

Explicitly treating human laborers in more-or-less the same way you treat a machine is unethical design as well as being an ugly and harmful philosophy. You are literally building a system that enables dehumanizing labor. Is this the kind of future you're happy being a part of building?

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by TeMPOraL »

sanitycheck wrote: post #7

What next, human Kubernetes? (No no no it's a Joke, Deliveroo and Uber staff, don't you dare paste that into Slack)

Google keeps saying that Kubernetes is a real world, κυβερνήτης, Greek for "helmsman" or "pilot" or "governor"[0][1], but its predecessor was called Borg, so in my mind, the true meaning of "Kubernetes" was always "a network of (Borg) cubes".

This way, I've already seen on TV what "Human Kubernetes" looks like. Resistance is futile.

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[0] - Via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubernetes#History.

[1] - Curiously, it's also the etymological root of cybernetics; cybernetics -> cyborg -> the Borg.

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by prepend »

skinnymuch wrote: post #31
sam_goody wrote: post #10

You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…

This sounds..not good. You know how I know how much of a cog some one is? How much they are being paid. Putting a bow on top of work that pays peanuts is worse in my opinion than being honest. Your tactics appear to try to manipulate underpaid or lowly paid cogs into not believing they are what the company and managers truly see them as - just that.

My office took the DISC [0] personality profile and it revealed that there are some people who love compliments, just love them. Even if they aren’t genuine, they like hearing “You’re a rock star, I’m so grateful you’re here today” even if the person is completely unable to evaluate rockstar vs. non-rockstar. Even if they say it every day to everyone.

And there are people who hate compliments.

So it’s funny how within an org there are cogs (and non-cogs) who hate that they aren’t recognized and then there’s cogs who hate when they are recognized.

Not sure the distribution in the population but it seems like the default mode is to shower complements that mean nothing other than the complimenter has some process for complimenting people.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISC_assessment

Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

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Post by prepend »

fny wrote: post #12
sam_goody wrote: post #10

You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…

> If they feel they are being "cogged", they will work like cogs Most people who get into Turking know they're going to be cogs, and honestly, the only thing they care about is getting paid properly for it. No pie-in-the-sky marketing BS is going to make up for sub minimum wage compensation.

> No pie-in-the-sky marketing BS is going to make up for sub minimum wage compensation.

Comically marketing BS is frequently created by consultants who cost money. Money that doesn’t go towards higher wages, or worker bonuses, or coffee in the beak room, etc

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