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Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by nisuni »

mrweasel wrote: post #15
sehugg wrote: post #13

I can handle the new design, but on my (albeit underpowered) Chromebook, new Gmail takes ~30 seconds from initial page load to starting a reply to a thread. This is not progress.

I have a new MacBook Pro, and while it doesn't take 30 seconds, there's still a ridicules slow load time for Gmail now. If you live in Gmail all day it may be completely fine, but if you just check your emails every now and then during the day, it's pretty frustrating. You almost get the feeling that something is broken when you load Gmail at this point. The Gmail interface is... fine I suppose, but I'd much prefer a…

> Sadly the best you can hope for these days is Apple Mail, and that's also just "fine".

Ever tried Mailmate?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by xvf22 »

petilon wrote: post #28

To me, Gmail Classic is this original look: https://techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/priority1.... I loved the "Original Classic". Every update since has worsened the look & feel. When Steve Jobs passed away, the whole software industry took a gigantic step backwards in design. There are lots of great designers in the world (have a look at https://dribbble.com/ ) but the people who hire designers often can't…

Steve also had his hand in plenty of awful design decisions with the skeuomorphic turn OSX took [0] being one of them.

[0] https://www.fastcompany.com/1670760/will-apples-tacky-softwa...

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by stevew20 »

mattnewton wrote: post #20
vbezhenar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3 seconds to load interface, almost instant transitions to mail and reply. Windows, Google Chrome.

I suspect this has more to do with network speed than platform or browser time spent parsing / executing js.

No, takes a ridiculously long time on my school's network, which is blazing fast. It's limited by my laptops cpu and ram, which is maxed the whole time it's loading

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by jcelerier »

mattnewton wrote: post #20
vbezhenar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3 seconds to load interface, almost instant transitions to mail and reply. Windows, Google Chrome.

I suspect this has more to do with network speed than platform or browser time spent parsing / executing js.

I'm on gigabit fiber and it's still slow as molasses

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by lucideer »

Arnt wrote: post #24
djsumdog wrote: post #21

It's interesting how back when programs actually ran on your machine, you could just use an older version. I knew people who never upgraded Winamp. Today we do know this is problematic (due to security updates mostly) but when it comes to web applications we don't have a choice. Don't like the new look, well tough. If the application has an API (like Reddit) you could write your own or use a better client. I could sa…

What precisely is shitty and broken about gmail's IMAP implementation? Gmail's IMAP implementation implements three RFCs I wrote; I haven't noticed anything wrong in those areas. Are my RFCs unusual or am I overlooking something?

I'm curious if you've actually used an IMAP client witha Gmail account; if so, which one(s).

A sibling comment has already mentioned the folder/flags mixup issue, but while it sounds like one small feature, that one thing is so fundamentally broken that I really can't see how any user of Gmail IMAP would overlook it.

I get duplicate notifications for the same mail in INBOX and [Gmail]/All Mail and actions on one copy don't affect the other unless clients implement Gmail-specific hacks (which many/most do).

What RFCs are you referring to?

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by michaelmior »

Arnt wrote: post #30
frutiger wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the GP poster, but the most frustrating thing for me is that GMail labels are implemented as IMAP mailboxes instead of IMAP flags.

You might be more frustrated if they'd done it the other way; IMAP clients have a terrible habit of downloading the entire mailbox. If they were to expose all mail in one mailbox with flags as the usual case, users with such clients and a lot of mail would suffer .

I'm sure that's true, but I assume that many of these clients either wouldn't have been written this way or would have adapted by now if Gmail did things differently.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by xfitm3 »

jedberg wrote: post #35
xfitm3 wrote: post #12

Thank you for this. Now, all we need is to bring back the View Image button in Google image search.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/view-image/jpcmhce...

I have this, but the recent UI refresh broke it.

https://github.com/bijij/ViewImage/issues/166

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by phreack »

GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

This would be a great option. Maybe Google could get on that, but they're more likely to axe the basic Html version considering their latest trends.

Re: Show HN: Gmail Classic – CSS for Reverting Gmail's New Look

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Post by sova »

phreack wrote: post #39
GhostVII wrote: post #16

I would rather have some CSS to make the basic HTML Gmail look like the classic Gmail. Adding CSS to the new Gmail doesn't make it any faster, which is my biggest problem with it. The basic HTML version runs really fast, but it could use a bit of CSS to make it look a bit nicer and add a little more whitespace (at least on my 4k monitor it's somewhat cramped).

This would be a great option. Maybe Google could get on that, but they're more likely to axe the basic Html version considering their latest trends.

I shudder to think it! And shudder again at the 70% likelihood you are prescient with your comment
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