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Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by crispyporkbites »

vomitcuddle wrote: post #15
scardine wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question for someone more knowledgeable about the subject than myself: if you are not decentralized (in the authority sense), why would you pick a blockchain-based solution instead of a more traditional distributed database? Sometimes it looks like people throw blockchain in a project not on technical merits but because they think the buzzword is a VC magnet.

>Sometimes it looks like people throw blockchain in a project not on technical merits but because they think the buzzword is a VC magnet. That's because they do. A Blockchain without decentralization (and therefore no need for proof-of-work consensus) is functionally just an immutable, append-only object database - the same sort of data structure that any modern, distributed source code version control system (like G…

Which is true, but what’s wrong with that? Perhaps there is a valuable approach to developing apps using a “blockchain” type approach, which enables trusted or non-trusted 3rd parties to more easily drop in on it than through a traditonal API.

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

Lol "Job in Chain" with these salaries it does come close to slavery so I guess the naming is right ...

What kind of a CTO works for 50K = I guess only those gagging to put "CTO" on their resume? Also exactly how much does an average engineer get when the CTO makes 50K ... Participating in such BS games is fraud against yourself and anyone who receives your CV in future. If you send me your CV and it has blockchain/ethereum/IOTA or similar listed, you'll get shifted to the other pile before you can say proof-of-work.

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by madeuptempacct »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #32

Lol "Job in Chain" with these salaries it does come close to slavery so I guess the naming is right ... What kind of a CTO works for 50K = I guess only those gagging to put "CTO" on their resume? Also exactly how much does an average engineer get when the CTO makes 50K ... Participating in such BS games is fraud against yourself and anyone who receives your CV in future. If you send me your CV and it has blockchain/e…

Why, because the person has taken the time to learn new tech and understands a lot of fundamental concepts like Big O notation, algorithms, and security? You are so clever and efficient.

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by codetrotter »

vomitcuddle wrote: post #20
codetrotter wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it need to be slow and shitty? Couldn’t “blockchain technology” in the context just refer to it being an immutable log? If the nodes are controlled by one entity there is no point in doing proof-of-work for consensus for example. IMO there is a difference between “blockchain” and “blockchain technology”. The latter means taking parts of or inspiration from how blockchains are built. Even if the technology is not…

>IMO there is a difference between “blockchain” and “blockchain technology”. The latter means taking parts of or inspiration from how blockchains are built. >Even if the technology is not be specific to the blockchain originally, blockchain still helped bring these ideas into the minds of the masses and so I think it is fair to characterize some of these things as “blockchain technology” when that is how some people…

It most certainly is not. You must have misunderstood what I meant.

If someone was introduced to a steamboat and they’d never seen a boat before (perhaps a far fetched example but stick with me here), and they made a rowboat and they said that they had built it on steamboat technology (because of the boat part) I think that would not be entirely unreasonable.

A charlatan on the other hand would be someone that sold you a steamboat and then gave you something that was not a steamboat, like for example a big rock or something.

A charlatan decieves people for fame or for money. Someone that sells something as “blockchain” when it’s not is a charlatan. Someone that was inspired to build something by blockchain and describes it as using “blockchain technology” should not deserve to be called a charlatan IMO.

It is still fair to point out that they are not actually using a blockchain, but calling them a charlatan is disingenuous because then what kinds of words should we use to describe the actual charlatans?

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by paulie_a »

haywirez wrote: post #22

This is useful, but the naming is quite unappealing :) As a sidenote, I see a lot of "normie" devs (as in formerly working for "big data", "cloud" etc. projects) joining blockchain startups suddenly.

I sort of wonder if those are just devs that could't hack it in whatever technology and constantly leap frog to the "new hotness"

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by GordonS »

codetrotter wrote: post #17
Ninn wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So.. you mean developing and using a really shitty, slow and expensive database cluster?

Does it need to be slow and shitty? Couldn’t “blockchain technology” in the context just refer to it being an immutable log? If the nodes are controlled by one entity there is no point in doing proof-of-work for consensus for example. IMO there is a difference between “blockchain” and “blockchain technology”. The latter means taking parts of or inspiration from how blockchains are built. Even if the technology is not…

> Does it need to be slow and shitty? Couldn’t “blockchain technology” in the context just refer to it being an immutable log?

The idea of an immutable log has been around far longer than any blockchain though, so referring to it as "blockchain technology" sounds a bit silly.

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by Ninn »

codetrotter wrote: post #34
vomitcuddle wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>IMO there is a difference between “blockchain” and “blockchain technology”. The latter means taking parts of or inspiration from how blockchains are built. >Even if the technology is not be specific to the blockchain originally, blockchain still helped bring these ideas into the minds of the masses and so I think it is fair to characterize some of these things as “blockchain technology” when that is how some people…

It most certainly is not. You must have misunderstood what I meant. If someone was introduced to a steamboat and they’d never seen a boat before (perhaps a far fetched example but stick with me here), and they made a rowboat and they said that they had built it on steamboat technology (because of the boat part) I think that would not be entirely unreasonable. A charlatan on the other hand would be someone that sold y…

Not only is your argumentation and example really not solid -- the steamboat technology would in this case cover the steam engine, used in a large range of other sectors to solve the same and other problems. As such, you would not use the steam engine technology in anyway in the "derived invention".

If we go back to your original claim, you appear to be implying that a blockchain, to begin with, is a good solution of a immutable log -- it is not.

Depending on the scenario, there are in ALL cases that I have encountered at least, a better alternative solution, which is more efficient, already well researched, developed and tested. If you recon that you know an example where this is not the case, I would love to hear about it.

At the same time, you really do see people and companies who every single day, do use the blockchain as an excuse for a little extra gains in their stock valuation, like Maersk (the same Maersk who cannot even figure out how to divide their network into virtual lans, or have som network level malware protection).

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

#39

Post by slv20n »

ksaitor wrote: post #38

What made you want to launch another crypto job list? Considering that there are a few pretty big players already: https://cryptojobslist.com - https://coinality.com - https://blocktribe.com - etc…

Multiple reasons :

I previously had a job board that wasn't targeting any area in particular. It didn't worked so i decide to rebrand it on to focus on blockchain technology because i find that it was hard to find a job in this field.

Regarding other big players, i have to agree. But i wanted to create a very simple job board, for developers by a developer. I still have a lot of work but i hope i will be able to differentiate myself from the other websites.

Re: Show HN: JobInChain – Find a Job as a Blockchain Developer

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Post by codetrotter »

Ninn wrote: post #37
codetrotter wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It most certainly is not. You must have misunderstood what I meant. If someone was introduced to a steamboat and they’d never seen a boat before (perhaps a far fetched example but stick with me here), and they made a rowboat and they said that they had built it on steamboat technology (because of the boat part) I think that would not be entirely unreasonable. A charlatan on the other hand would be someone that sold y…

Not only is your argumentation and example really not solid -- the steamboat technology would in this case cover the steam engine, used in a large range of other sectors to solve the same and other problems. As such, you would not use the steam engine technology in anyway in the "derived invention". If we go back to your original claim, you appear to be implying that a blockchain, to begin with, is a good solution of…

> Not only is your argumentation and example really not solid -- the steamboat technology would in this case cover the steam engine, used in a large range of other sectors to solve the same and other problems. As such, you would not use the steam engine technology in anyway in the "derived invention".

But my point was that to someone who had never seen any boat at all everything that makes up the steamboat is steamboat technology.

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