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Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

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post #15

How much does this earn per user per minute, on average? Any estimtes?

to earn 0.01 USD you need 1MH at the moment. In my browser I can generate 25H/S so about 44 days on one browser to generate 1$

Using the Monero prices I looked up right now it seems more like 21 days. Not that it really is meaningfully better.

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#32
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that there should be some sort of notification but other than that, I actually find this idea quite sympathetic. If you read my site, you can pay me by mining for me. It requires no extra effort on your part -- no credit card or micropayment login etc., and the longer you spend on my site, the more you pay. The exchange of value seems more clear cut that ads.

2-5 cents per 24 hours of a user being on your site seems like a bad tradeoff for the downsides.

Also, if the payment was higher than fractions of a cent, people would start "freezing" the site the moment it loaded - just as, back in the day, we disconnected our phone line modems as soon as the page we needed finished downloading, to avoid paying the phone company for time not spent transferring data.

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#33
post #23

This idea has been tried before ( https://hashcash.io/ ). Question for the developers: 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero? 2. What are you going to do if and when people develop counter strategies to bypass having to do the work?

to answer to question 2: I guess they could limit hash rate result by IP address.

I think GP is talking about the case in which people kill off the mining script, so that it doesn't mine, after the side loads. I.e. ad-block for sneaky cryptocoin miners.

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#34
post #3

In theory it could be a revolution I guess, in practice I'm not sure it would mine enough coin and so generate enough income to be worth it. But having an equivalent using GPU in application like games may be profitable.

looking at how GTA V utilizes all 4 cores on various CPUs, always hovering at 80-100%, I already suspect that they use gamers' PCs for mining

Or maybe they simply alter the rate of some CPU-bound simulation components within the open world?

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#36
post #18

Cant imagine that anyone blocking ads wouldnt also block this

Why? It isn't an ad. Most users block ads because they find ads annoying, not because of script bloat.

I would definitely block it, simply because the browser isn't the only application running on my computer.

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to answer to question 2: I guess they could limit hash rate result by IP address.

I think GP is talking about the case in which people kill off the mining script, so that it doesn't mine, after the side loads. I.e. ad-block for sneaky cryptocoin miners.

Indeed I did not understand it in that way, It took so long for adblock to be a thing that I think it is a non issue for now.

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#38
post #35

I'll try it right now on a website with 1k visits per day, with 40 seconds session average. I will report back in a few days

I guess <6 cents per day, let me know if that was right or not.

I will !

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

#39
post #15

How much does this earn per user per minute, on average? Any estimtes?

to earn 0.01 USD you need 1MH at the moment. In my browser I can generate 25H/S so about 44 days on one browser to generate 1$

2,112 users 30 minutes on your site

Re: Show HN: Coinhive – Embeddable JavaScript Crypto Miner

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

network calls for tracking and ads is already a huge performance problem on most sites, but it is still a thing

No reason not to treat it just as badly as attempts to mine bitcoin off your CPU. Both of those waste your resources, for someone else's profits, without your consent.

Devils advocate here.

Isn't just visiting the site giving consent to allow the sandbox (browser) to be utilized as the site directs?

This is an extreme case, granted, but it's still within the bounds of the sandbox.

Perhaps we'll have a new browser setting soon to throttle this type of thing instead of having to go whole hog and turn of JavaScript.

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