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Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by int_handler » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 12:57 AM UTC

Cool experiment, but holy Tour de France coding style Batman: https://github.com/NathanCastle/BootShellCredentialProvider/...

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

#32

Post by bitwize » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 1:18 AM UTC

mee_too wrote: post #20

I bet RMS will now ask people to start calling it GNU/Windows :)

https://mikegerwitz.com/2016/04/GNU-kWindows

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by chrisper » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 1:20 AM UTC

nix0n wrote: post #29

chrisper wrote: post #19

I was experimenting running stuff like PyCharm, VS Code, Sublime etc. in WSl through X11 Forwarding. Eventually I gave up and just run it properly in VirtualBox with seamless mode.

What windowing system do you use this with?

Windows 10 with the newest Insider Build

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by chrisper » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 1:56 AM UTC

snuxoll wrote: post #28

chrisper wrote: post #19

I was experimenting running stuff like PyCharm, VS Code, Sublime etc. in WSl through X11 Forwarding. Eventually I gave up and just run it properly in VirtualBox with seamless mode.

FYI, for PyCharm a remote interpreter is probably an easier solution as long as you aren't needing your app to draw anything on an X11 window.

I kind of want to have a development environment in Linux. I also like to game, so for that Windows (in non-vm) is better. So that's why I tried to go with WSL in the first place.

But Virtualbox seamless is a nice middle ground between the two OS and I don't have to worry about things that haven't been implemented in WSL.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by flukus » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:03 AM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #34

snuxoll wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI, for PyCharm a remote interpreter is probably an easier solution as long as you aren't needing your app to draw anything on an X11 window.

I kind of want to have a development environment in Linux. I also like to game, so for that Windows (in non-vm) is better. So that's why I tried to go with WSL in the first place. But Virtualbox seamless is a nice middle ground between the two OS and I don't have to worry about things that haven't been implemented in WSL.

Linux gaming has been improving rapidly lately, in another year I doubt windows will be necessary.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by taspeotis » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:06 AM UTC

int_handler wrote: post #31

Cool experiment, but holy Tour de France coding style Batman: https://github.com/NathanCastle/BootShellCredentialProvider/...

Seems okay to me? RAII would make it tidier but the nesting is a simple way to handle cleaning up if you fail part-way through.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by kough » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:06 AM UTC

chrisper wrote: post #19

I was experimenting running stuff like PyCharm, VS Code, Sublime etc. in WSl through X11 Forwarding. Eventually I gave up and just run it properly in VirtualBox with seamless mode.

How did you enable seamless mode? I'm using VirtualBox to run a Debian desktop with the Gala WM, but I can't get the seamless mode to work. (And I couldn't with Ubuntu, either.)

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by dingo_bat » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:16 AM UTC

mee_too wrote: post #20

I bet RMS will now ask people to start calling it GNU/Windows :)

I guess that's accurate, since there are zero lines of the Linux kernel in WSL.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by dingo_bat » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:19 AM UTC

flukus wrote: post #35

chrisper wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of want to have a development environment in Linux. I also like to game, so for that Windows (in non-vm) is better. So that's why I tried to go with WSL in the first place. But Virtualbox seamless is a nice middle ground between the two OS and I don't have to worry about things that haven't been implemented in WSL.

Linux gaming has been improving rapidly lately, in another year I doubt windows will be necessary.

Biggest overstatement. Linux gaming, though becoming more possible, is nowhere near gaming on windows. Forget game availability, even most GPUs are not properly supported on most Linuxes.

Re: Show HN: Boot Windows 10 Directly into Linux Desktop of Choice

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Post by dingo_bat » Thu, Mar 02, 2017, 2:22 AM UTC

nxc18 wrote: post #3

imafish wrote: post #2

That looks awesome. How well do Linux DE's run on Windows?

Its a bit of a mixed bag. Just getting them set up tends to be pretty iffy; they tend to rely on lots of sockets, which I gather aren't actually implemented by WSL. In terms of performance once they are up and running, things are actually pretty decent. The biggest bottleneck appears to be I/O, which is kind of a problem for everything WSL. That part makes installing a gig+ desktop package frustrating as it takes way…

If sockets are not available how do programs access the network?