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Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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It looks like these are the companies that are really insuring you: Lloyd’s of London, Berkshire Hathaway’s National Indemnity, XL Catlin etc. Basically they are buying a policy from one of those companies adding 20% and selling it to you. A insurance company works by spreading risk over a large area. By selling everything in NY they are increasing their correlation which raises risk. One of the reasons for the sub p…

There's a difference between insurance and reinsurance. It looks like they're only reinsured through those companies, but the policy itself is underwritten by Lemonade.

Reinsurance is basically insurance for the insurance co, for instance if a hurricane hits NYC and wipes out all of their policyholders at once.

(It's a bit complicated because there actually are many insurance co's that only sell insurance underwritten by a third party (although they may be able to offer lower price than buying from the third party directly because of how they target their customer base or handle claims), or sell insurance strictly on commission and outsource servicing claims, and there are varying forms of reinsurance that cover everything from huge tail risks to flat percentages of claims, or exotic circumstances like your corporate HQ burning down or massive lawsuits.)

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, thanks for trying. Can you share more details? Browser, device, etc. It seems like everything works properly on our end

That comment wasn't about a bug. This person is saying that you require too much information to get a quote. And I agree.

The fact that @gilsadis didn't understand this this suggests to me that they are in entirely the wrong business.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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It looks like these are the companies that are really insuring you: Lloyd’s of London, Berkshire Hathaway’s National Indemnity, XL Catlin etc. Basically they are buying a policy from one of those companies adding 20% and selling it to you. A insurance company works by spreading risk over a large area. By selling everything in NY they are increasing their correlation which raises risk. One of the reasons for the sub p…

They're not adding 20%, they're charging you a flat 20% and then paying for the policy on the back-end.

In that sense, it's like a buyers club for insurance. Lloyd's isn't insuring every Lemonade customer individually, they're insuring the entire Lemonade business, which with enough buy-in becomes a very diversified risk pool.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#35

This is wildly un-new. Mutual insurance companies have existed for literally hundreds of years. Oldest one I can find in 5 minutes dates to 1762, and if you include merchant insurance organizations, probably https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_insurance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Equitable_Life_Assurance_S...

True. We like to say that Lemonade is the oldest new idea! I think that's what the sharing economy is all about, using technology to revive modes of social interaction that used to be commonplace.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#36

It looks like these are the companies that are really insuring you: Lloyd’s of London, Berkshire Hathaway’s National Indemnity, XL Catlin etc. Basically they are buying a policy from one of those companies adding 20% and selling it to you. A insurance company works by spreading risk over a large area. By selling everything in NY they are increasing their correlation which raises risk. One of the reasons for the sub p…

There's a difference between insurance and reinsurance. It looks like they're only reinsured through those companies, but the policy itself is underwritten by Lemonade. Reinsurance is basically insurance for the insurance co, for instance if a hurricane hits NYC and wipes out all of their policyholders at once. (It's a bit complicated because there actually are many insurance co's that only sell insurance underwritte…

It's funny you chose a hurricane as your scenario where an insurer needs coverage. A lot of insurance companies are issuing their own, more creative, instruments to avoid going through the reinsurance markets - especially 'catastrophe bonds,' which offer higher interest rates than normal bonds, but do not pay out in the event of a catastrophic event such as a hurricane.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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Cool concept, looking forward to seeing roll out. Under your definition of p2p would heyguevara.com not fall into this too?

The difference is that we're a fully regulated insurance company (as opposed to brokers like Guevara or other p2p insurance startups). It means that we can control the experience end to end and build an insurance company with a different business model than how traditional insurance companies do business. This is why we can give unclaimed money back to charity.

Why not give unclaimed money back to the consumer? Like a mutual insurance company, wouldnt that dissaude more folks from filing fraudulent* claims?

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#38
So... what are the supported causes? What is the criteria for a cause to be qualified for support?

There are charities and causes I do support and there are those that I don't. There are charities that oppose each other in their stated goals as well.

I see a section that talks about becoming a supported charity, but nothing about criteria or who is already in.

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comment wasn't about a bug. This person is saying that you require too much information to get a quote. And I agree.

The fact that @gilsadis didn't understand this this suggests to me that they are in entirely the wrong business.

Technically I believe they are an Israeli company could be just an issue with linguistics ;)

Re: Show HN: Lemonade – the world's first P2P insurance company

#40

It looks like these are the companies that are really insuring you: Lloyd’s of London, Berkshire Hathaway’s National Indemnity, XL Catlin etc. Basically they are buying a policy from one of those companies adding 20% and selling it to you. A insurance company works by spreading risk over a large area. By selling everything in NY they are increasing their correlation which raises risk. One of the reasons for the sub p…

They're not adding 20%, they're charging you a flat 20% and then paying for the policy on the back-end. In that sense, it's like a buyers club for insurance. Lloyd's isn't insuring every Lemonade customer individually, they're insuring the entire Lemonade business, which with enough buy-in becomes a very diversified risk pool.

that's well said!
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