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Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Bots are closer to a CLI than a GUI, that is the core issue with discovery.

I don't understand the discovery comment. I don't discover Bob the copier salesman. I decide I need a copier, search for copier retailers and then give Bob a call. Won't bots work the same way?

You don't have to discover how to call Bob, which is analogous to finding the bot. But you may need to discover what jargon to use with Bob to make sure you get what you want.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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From an NLP standpoint, what is the comparison between this and other NLP products? Namely WitAi, etc?

I'm writing a bot framework (code, not web service), and trying to generalize the process so the the developer can switch between different NLP providers with ease (to avoid lockin.. as much as possible atleast).

So, comparing to Witai atlast, is your NLP better? Is it more flexible somehow? etc, thoughts?

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

#33
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Bots are broken as a platform. No advertising, no payments system, developers have to pay for hosting, there's no discovery mechanism because the messengers don't have bot stores... Why would developers be interested?

Pretty sure you'll be able to insert adverts into what a bot says.

Why do you say you'll be able to insert adverts into what a bot says? We can talk about Acme Corporation's great products if you like.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

#34

From an NLP standpoint, what is the comparison between this and other NLP products? Namely WitAi, etc? I'm writing a bot framework (code, not web service), and trying to generalize the process so the the developer can switch between different NLP providers with ease (to avoid lockin.. as much as possible atleast). So, comparing to Witai atlast, is your NLP better? Is it more flexible somehow? etc, thoughts?

Our value-add here would be providing the pipelines for one-click deployment (SMS, Facebook, Slack etc) and structuring of conversation flow, in addition to things like post-deployment analytics and insights on how users are talking to your bot. In terms of NLP, we actually take an agnostic approach to whether users want to use Wit.ai (or api.ai etc) in conjunction with our service, or use our NLP offerings. Thanks for the question!

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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This whole 'bot renaissance makes me think that somewhere 1000s of old IRC Channel admins are raising their hands in despair, and quickly shuffling through countless CD-Rs of old TCL and Perl code to see if they have something worth re-releasing. Granted, the natural language stuff is way better than it was, but the current bot platforms that are springing up everywhere are nothing more than a language parser and an…

My main concern is that this whole situation will not include only chat bots but it will also trigger a demand for crawling bots which could put a lot of stress on web sites. Then sites could adopt aggressive captcha schemes which will hammer usability and make the life of legitimate crawlers a lot more difficult. It’s a lose-lose situation , until the industry comes into its senses and realize this whole thing is a…

One solution to this could simply be improving our ability to handle traffic. Bots aren't doing anything bad (under normal condition), they just represent a portion of your view traffic that you don't inherently want. An aggressive user, of sorts.

With that said, we have more cycles these days, better web servers, and inherently more traffic capacity than we did 10 years ago.

I have a feeling bot traffic will grow faster than our traffic-handling-tech, but regardless, i think this is just going to be the new standard. Especially since bot traffic could represent UX requirements for potential users.

Quite an interesting future we have though.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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post #18

This whole 'bot renaissance makes me think that somewhere 1000s of old IRC Channel admins are raising their hands in despair, and quickly shuffling through countless CD-Rs of old TCL and Perl code to see if they have something worth re-releasing. Granted, the natural language stuff is way better than it was, but the current bot platforms that are springing up everywhere are nothing more than a language parser and an…

My main concern is that this whole situation will not include only chat bots but it will also trigger a demand for crawling bots which could put a lot of stress on web sites. Then sites could adopt aggressive captcha schemes which will hammer usability and make the life of legitimate crawlers a lot more difficult. It’s a lose-lose situation , until the industry comes into its senses and realize this whole thing is a…

I don't understand the connection. What do chatbots have to do with scrapers? Are you saying that the chatbots will need to use scrapers to harvest the information they present to users? Might be true in some cases, I guess.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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I remember the time when kids considered bots cool, and I had no idea about programming then, nor did I understand how bots were usefull..

But the problem is I dont understand not even today who would be interested to interact with a bot? And how is this service better than employing a programmer ? Some examples would be useful.

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