Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

app.illustrio.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–37 of 37 posts

Re: Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

#31

Post by teleclimber »

atonse wrote: post #16
teleclimber wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you tell us your rationale for patenting this "CSS-based language"?

Wouldn't it be the same rationale for any patent? To protect your intellectual property?

Well sure, but obtaining a patent is no small thing (if done seriously). So I'm curious why they feel it's so important to protect this.

Basically I'm wondering if it's just a purely defensive move, (maybe an investor asked them to file a patent or whatever), or whether they are aiming for a business model where people create things using a language that they control and can obtain fees for its use.

Of course they don't have any reason to share this info with us at this point.

Re: Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

#32

Post by sebdursel »

biot wrote: post #29
raphdg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. If you buy a downloads pack, you have to use them within 12 months. After that period, they expire. But once the illustrations are downloaded, you can use them as long as you want. edit: for clarity

Perhaps you should say "Must be downloaded within 12 months; perpetual license lets you use them for as long as you want."

Indeed good point, thanks for that!

Re: Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

#33

Post by thaeli »

sebdursel wrote: post #30
thaeli wrote: post #28

I'm not clear on the licensing here. Are all files under the "illustrio license", and why does the summary that pops up seem to say something different than the detailed license text? I would be much more comfortable with a standard license being used - say, the Creative Commons licenses. At least let users filter their search by license terms, unless they're all under the same terms in which case that should be clea…

Thanks for the feedback. The illustrio license applies to all graphics. What differences have you noticed between the pop up and the detailed text? We might need to clarify if anything is unclear right now. Also, you may customize other things than colors by playing with the inputs in the left side-bar under each "product". Try to play with the slider under Percentages for example. You need to click on Percentages fi…

Ah, it's only in some categories. That is definitely a neat feature now that I see it. Unfortunate that the licensing makes this something I can't use. I'd never get your license text past the legal team at my day job, and almost all of my side projects are FLOSS. Plus, having a policy of never using anything that I can't either own the rights to or use and modify under a permissive license makes my IP management so much simpler.

The summary license says that you can't redistribute the graphics. Admittedly, I'm used to licenses such as GPL where including the file in an app's package file would be "redistribution" - it looks like you mean "no redistribution of JUST the graphics file" which could perhaps be clearer.

Also, the license seems really concerned with not putting any of your graphics in a theme or template. Why is this? I'd consider offering a licensing option which permits this, perhaps on a different pricing structure.

You say can't use in/on a paid product, but can use in a paid service. That's confusing because I'd think of my paid website service AS my product - I think you might mean "no use on physical goods for sale" which is another restriction I don't particularly understand but okay. Again that might be something to offer an option for.

Re: Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

#35

Post by sebdursel »

thaeli wrote: post #33
sebdursel wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback. The illustrio license applies to all graphics. What differences have you noticed between the pop up and the detailed text? We might need to clarify if anything is unclear right now. Also, you may customize other things than colors by playing with the inputs in the left side-bar under each "product". Try to play with the slider under Percentages for example. You need to click on Percentages fi…

Ah, it's only in some categories. That is definitely a neat feature now that I see it. Unfortunate that the licensing makes this something I can't use. I'd never get your license text past the legal team at my day job, and almost all of my side projects are FLOSS. Plus, having a policy of never using anything that I can't either own the rights to or use and modify under a permissive license makes my IP management so…

All good points and we certainly need to clarify a couple things. The reason why our license is restrictive is because we target non-designers who are generally not making a living out of design. This way we can offer our own pricing and not compete with all the already good icon and graphic providers out there targeting designers. It happens non-designers are also happier with our limited editing features than Adobe illustrator's for instance. Hope it makes sense.

Re: Show HN: Illustrio – Search, customize and download illustrations

#36

Post by andybak »

raphdg wrote: post #3
andybak wrote: post #2

Nice. On signup - there is a field labelled 'company' that validates as an email address. I'm guessing the label is wrong.

Indeed thank you! edit: Are you referring to the placeholder "Your company email..." in the signup modal? If it's the case, we're planning on creating a color scheme automatically from the company's logo. Currently, it can be done by picking colors manually from any logo the Clearbit API can find. Try to create a new color scheme :)

Maybe I didn't spot the word 'email' in "Your company email..." but I swear it just said "Your company"...
Post reply on HN