Why is "defer" different from "snooze"? Both indicate picking a time to deal with the email.
Defer seems to ambiguously capture both snooze and delegate.
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Re: Show HN: Plain Email – An app for one-touch email processing
#32Let's try a bit of wordsmithing.
Either stick to the 4 D's of GTD: Delete, Do, Delegate, Defer; or use the commonplace terms: Archive, Reply, Forward, Snooze. When you do this, do you start to realize how similar it looks to existing email clients?
By the way you say there is no Snooze button- then what is Defer?
And one-touch, not "single-touch."
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#33Why is "defer" different from "snooze"? Both indicate picking a time to deal with the email.
"Snooze" to me implies delaying for a unit of time that you may choose to repeat. From their description of "Defer" it seems you pick a specific date/time and add it to your calendar.
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#34I just downloaded it. I like "response", "delegate", and "defer", and "unsubscribe".
I do not like that is only runs in fullscreen, but I think I get why you're doing it.
I current use Google Inbox and set my default "done" action to delete. You should support the notion of "done forever".
I maybe keep 10% of the email I receive. Having a heavy hand with deletion forces me to think about the value of the communication and to capture the important actions and details in my todo system.
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#35Why this website needs 11 javascript, 12 css & 6 font files? Numbers from http://www.webpagetest.org
The developer was probably busy writing apps and giving them away for free, and decided not to spend time optimizing the page.
Page is pretty well put together (indicating some time was spent) - all the JS is for the "fancy" fading/sliding effects and is quite comment. Parent is being harsh, but you're also being too reactionary.
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#36Good stuff. Why did you use "respond" instead of "reply"? It's just as descriptive, and is the canonical term. It takes mental overhead to parse new terminology. And I see the business angle in "delegate", but forwarding isn't always for purposes of delegation. Maybe this: Dismiss Sleep Forward Reply
Comes from the 'get things done' or GTD ideology.
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#37I believe I'll have the same problem with this app that I have with Kindle -- the lack of flipability in the name of apparent convenience and simplicity.
There is an unspoken importance in an inbox glance, in seeing a list of "undone" email and getting a gist of things. There is a similar feeling in flipping pages of an entire book.
Imagine being in a room where you only see one object at a time, you can either use it or defer it for a later time. Simple? Yes. Will I hope to stumble upon a gun to put in my mouth? Indeed.
There is a magic in looking at the world and deciding on what to do. It's much faster, efficient, and satisfying.
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#38This assumes an inbox is a type of "project" that needs to be "completed". It's structured on the concept of removing messages from my screen until there is nothing left for me to "do". My inbox is often more of a conversation that I fade in and out of. Sometimes it resembles a facebook feed. Granted, I'm not a type A personality, but not all email is has to be "done" anymore than all reading books need to be "done".…
I really like emptying my inbox now, but at the same time I sort of agree with you. Inbox's views can give you both, though: You can snooze messages you don't want to deal with right now and space them out based on how soon you think you might want to pay attention to them. Yet you can also at any time go in and look at the full list of messages.
It's nice as one more way of figuring out what to prioritise.
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#39Ah, this concept reminds me of one of the first apps I did, years ago, called EmptyInbox - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/emptyinbox-for-gmail/id50994... (Yay skeuomorphism!)
It only supports GMail, but still works as far as I know. Back then it was the only app I knew that had that concept, but by now there is Triage, plus most modern mail clients have the "swipe" actions for quickly getting through emails.
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#40Would be intersting to be able to tag the email as it's being marked "Done". It's the GTD analogy of filing it away. Yes full-text search can turn up almost anything but a tag may help for smartmailboxes or further post-processing work.