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Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

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Post by f_ »

snuxoll wrote: post #29
lwhalen wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run an IRC server, configure a hubot. Yes, 'cloud'-based chat is pretty, but it's a new coat of paint over something that's been around for decades (IRC). For a company less than several thousand people, running your own singleton IRC server is about as complicated as setting up a basic 3-tier web application (i.e., a little fiddly, but not hard at all)

Compliance is an annoying issue with IRC. With Slack, Lync, or 99% of Jabber servers out there I can log every communication that takes place (outside of people using something like OTR with Jabber) - I can set up an IRC bot in every channel to log group chats, and maybe somehow disable private messages, but it's a pain in the butt to deal with IRC where compliance is a big deal (I work in healthcare). I've often toy…

Indeed compliance is an issue with IRC, but you don't need to write an IRCd to log all messages and you don't even need to configure IRC services: you could just use InspIRCd [1] (which, by the way, is a superb and extensible IRCd) and an extension such as [2] to achieve what you are looking for.

[1] https://www.inspircd.org/ [2] https://github.com/joshenders/inspircd-m_chatlog

Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

#32

Post by snuxoll »

f_ wrote: post #31
snuxoll wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compliance is an annoying issue with IRC. With Slack, Lync, or 99% of Jabber servers out there I can log every communication that takes place (outside of people using something like OTR with Jabber) - I can set up an IRC bot in every channel to log group chats, and maybe somehow disable private messages, but it's a pain in the butt to deal with IRC where compliance is a big deal (I work in healthcare). I've often toy…

Indeed compliance is an issue with IRC, but you don't need to write an IRCd to log all messages and you don't even need to configure IRC services: you could just use InspIRCd [1] (which, by the way, is a superb and extensible IRCd) and an extension such as [2] to achieve what you are looking for. [1] https://www.inspircd.org/ [2] https://github.com/joshenders/inspircd-m_chatlog

I'll have to give it some investigation. I'm pretty confident in the ability of end users to figure out a basic IRC client, but logging made it a non-starter for our use cases - the chatlog module you linked is rather basic, but looking at the source it should be easy to extend for our usage.

Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

#33

Post by ksenzee »

criddell wrote: post #30

This is neat, but I guess I don't really understand the problem this is solving. The company I work for uses Slack and I like it a lot. However, I've never found myself wishing that I could get a stock quote (or do a trade!), map an address, or play hangman there. Similarly, I think I could do a lot of that stuff from Emacs, but I never have. I use Emacs to edit text and I use Slack to chat. It might be because of th…

The stock quote and hangman plugins are really just demos. Where services like this really shine is when you integrate them with your existing systems. Starting a Jenkins build from your Slack channel is pretty nifty.

Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

#34

Post by kedean »

bdcravens wrote: post #24
d0m wrote: post #6

Looks like risky business to me since this is exactly what Slack is trying to do (Marketplace for commands)

Will we have the inevitable Twitter moment when Slack closes things up, and it becomes a crisis of unfairness for companies that built upon another?

I'm going to say yes. I thought it was common knowledge at this point not to base your entire service on the good will of another service? They're also banking on Slack not changing their API without telling them.

Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

#35

Post by rrggrr »

dominotw wrote: post #19

I've never used slack but how does it compare to hipchat's new connect api? https://developer.atlassian.com/blog/2015/12/going-way-beyon...

We left hipchat for slack for several reasons. First, we saved some money. There were more integrations for slack. The result has been mixed with my more technical users embracing slack, and my less technical users revolting. Hipchat is easier on the eyes and the UI is more intuitive. Both have a long way to go.

There are too many chat clients around and far too many methods to communicate period. Aggregation is badly needed.

Re: Show HN: Use Slack for Everything

#37

Post by Aloha »

tarr11 wrote: post #20
d0m wrote: post #6

Looks like risky business to me since this is exactly what Slack is trying to do (Marketplace for commands)

Yeah, this already exists. Slack hasn't added many commands to their marketplace, but if this is at all successful, they will. Don't see how this lives as part of the Slack ecosystem. Maybe their goal is to become standalone.

or they wont because it would add complexity to their product for features few customers need?
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