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Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by sanity »

evilos wrote: post #290
sanity wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Woke" refers to Critical Social Justice ideology, hope that helps.

That's what it means to you, most users mean "something liberal/progressive I don't like".

Most people don't know the academic umbrella term, but if you ask for examples of "woke", it's usually pretty obvious they're referring to Critical Social Justice ideology and its associated norms.

People can argue about the boundaries of the term, but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by evilos »

sanity wrote: post #291
evilos wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what it means to you, most users mean "something liberal/progressive I don't like".

Most people don't know the academic umbrella term, but if you ask for examples of "woke", it's usually pretty obvious they're referring to Critical Social Justice ideology and its associated norms. People can argue about the boundaries of the term, but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument.

> but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument

The claim is that it's too broad to be useful. But as I said earlier, this is all besides the point.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by sanity »

evilos wrote: post #292
sanity wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't know the academic umbrella term, but if you ask for examples of "woke", it's usually pretty obvious they're referring to Critical Social Justice ideology and its associated norms. People can argue about the boundaries of the term, but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument.

> but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument The claim is that it's too broad to be useful. But as I said earlier, this is all besides the point.

It's clearly an effective label, otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used.

The real objection is that supporters of the ideology dislike the characterization embedded in the term.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by evilos »

sanity wrote: post #293
evilos wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but pretending nobody knows what is being referred to is not a serious argument The claim is that it's too broad to be useful. But as I said earlier, this is all besides the point.

It's clearly an effective label, otherwise it wouldn't be so widely used. The real objection is that supporters of the ideology dislike the characterization embedded in the term.

Effective as a social signal, absolutely. Not for anything substantive.

Again, besides the point.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by tardedmeme »

raffraffraff wrote: post #178
kstrauser wrote: post #76

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WTF. These are some of the first things I clicked through on that page: - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... Gee, I can't imagine how that mailing list could ever be toxic.

If his definition of woke mind virus is "identitarianism", then it's agree that it's fucking awful. But I wouldn't call it "woke mind virus". Identitarianism is a cancer, that has been fed via social media algorithms. We seem to have invented a machine for rewarding all of the wrong incentives. Who would have thought that phenomena like audience capture & polarised thought bubbles would be in the palm of the hand, di…

Usage of the phrase "woke mind virus" is itself a symptom of identitarianism. Only identitarians use the phrase.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by imcritic »

kstrauser wrote: post #76
qcl820DV34 wrote: post #22

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> and after over a year of debate There was no "year of debate". You came to the mailing list and announced it for the first time as a finalized decision already, without any prior debate with the original team. The "board" you cited as the body which allegedly discussed it did neither join the mailing list discussion, nor were you willing to hand out their contact info. It's all public for anyone to see on the maili…

WTF. These are some of the first things I clicked through on that page: - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... Gee, I can't imagine how that mailing list could ever be toxic.

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