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Hense the credible belief. The Russians did manage to step down from violence so it is possible.

May want to check Russian agression for years. They did not stepped down much.

Not Russia in general but their leadership succession

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Hilariously (to me, anyway) — I genuinely don’t know which party you’re talking about. It could truly be either, depending entirely on which party you support.

That's sort of like saying you're not sure if the earth is round or not-- says much more about you and your understanding than anything else.

The patronizing tone and use of totalizing moral claims gives me a much stronger hint of which side of this you're on.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-4311-... > Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States…

Ford did real damage that day.

Interestingly, Ford received a Kennedy Award for pardoning Nixon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/22/us/ford-wins-kennedy-awar...

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The Obama number is also high because the designer combined Obama's first and second terms into one figure, unlike what he did with the other presidents who served two terms.

Even so, it’s still higher than the other presidents listed

Indeed. It took me a bit to remember why. There was a clemency program for nonviolent drug offenders with otherwise clean records who had served at least 10 years in federal prison under out of date sentencing guidelines.

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Ford did real damage that day.

The real embarrassment is how little effort there's been to limit/reform the pardon system since then. Pardons have valid uses, but it's wild that a single person can unilaterally pardon donators, family members, former presidents, etc, without needing so much as a simple majority confirmation vote in the House or Senate. The questionable pardons that we've seen over the last few years (and the Nixon pardon) are just…

In my country pardons very rarely happen because politicians would be massacred in the press for it.

It is political suicide- one of the perks of having 20 different parties.

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The Democrats literally tried like 6 different ways to get Trump in jail, and arrested and jailed many of his supporters and even some of his administration. I highly doubt that the majority of the voting public which elected Trump will sit idle for any sort of unjust retribution to the current administration.

> sit idle for any sort of unjust retribution This is genuinely hilarious. I guess you haven't been paying attention but "sitting idle during injustice" is all that Trump supporters do. No, his base is already collapsing. He overextended with Iran, sent gas prices up, and as a direct result has finally started to bleed support from the know-nothings. I doubt Trump himself will ever face justice for his many crimes -…

I don't agree with your prediction, the interesting thing is now, perhaps, we can actually wager on the outcomes, I wonder if there is anything on prediction markets about administration officials going to jail.

The idea that his support is collapsing is also pretty misstated. Yes, there's a lot of people that don't fully agree with Iran and other things, but that's a far cry from backing his ops.

I also think you are missing the shift in politics at all the lower levels to align with the current administration. Outside of the deepest wealthy Democrat areas, and even in some of those, the general position of local politicians and officials is moving towards the sort of nationalist populist attitude Trump has curated.

The same is also pervasive among state and federal government institutions with limited exception.

And of course that's all only IF Democrats win big in 2028 which is a far from guaranteed outcome.

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And in theory a future administration could do something like threaten to withhold funding to states that don’t prosecute.

Don’t worry, Trump 47 already thought of this, specifically threatening a state until the governor pardoned someone. https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-threatened...

Yep exactly, goes both ways.

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This claim is ahistoric. The ancient Athenians, the inventors of democracy, would reject it because they used popular elections in only a limited number of cases. Their suspicion was that popular elections were tools of oligarchy. Instead they preferred sortition, selection at random, to give rule of the people. They punished abuse of public power severely. In the context of American thought, Federalist No. 10 goes i…

A democracy means political authority ultimately comes from the people.

And all the downsides of that. Eg: People on welfare are going to vote for more welfare at the cost of the working class.

It's political autority that comes from the lowest common denominator.

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A democracy means political authority ultimately comes from the people.

And all the downsides of that. Eg: People on welfare are going to vote for more welfare at the cost of the working class. It's political autority that comes from the lowest common denominator.

irrelevant to the definition, thanks anyway
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