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There is prior art here, e.g. Emo from alibaba research ( https://humanaigc.github.io/emote-portrait-alive/ ), but this is impressive and also actually has a demo people can try, so that's awesome and great work!
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it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…
> consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven true. Wait. Isn't literally the exactly other way around ? Materialism is the null hypothesis here, backed by all empirical evidence to date; it's all the other hypotheses presenting some kind of magic that are BS until proven.
What if the reverse is true? The only real thing is actually irrationality, and all the rational materialism is simply a catalyst for experiencing things?
The answer to this great question has massive implications, not just in this realm, btw. For example, crime and punishment. Why are we torturing prisoners in prison who were just following their programming?
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it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…
Hello, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I'm currently writing a blog post where the thesis is that the root disagreement between "AI doomers" and others is actually primarily a disagreement about materialism, and I've been looking for evidence of this disagreement in the wild. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
I don't think the correlation is accidental.
So you're on to something, here. And I've felt the exact same way as you, here. I'd love to see your blog post when it's done.
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Hello, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I'm currently writing a blog post where the thesis is that the root disagreement between "AI doomers" and others is actually primarily a disagreement about materialism, and I've been looking for evidence of this disagreement in the wild. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Really? You sound serious. I would recommend rethinking such a claim. There are simpler and more plausible explanations for why people view existential risk differently.
It is difficult to prove an irrational thing with rationality. How do we know that you and I see the same color orange (this is the concept of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia)? Measuring the wavelength entering our eyes is insufficient.
This is going to end up being an infinitely long HN discussion because it's 1) unsolvable without more data 2) infinitely interesting to any intellectual /shrug
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it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…
> I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven true. It’s no less BS than the other beliefs which can be summed up as “magic”.
So basically I have to choose between a non-dualist pure-materialist worldview in which every single thing I care about, feel or experience is fundamentally a meaningless illusion (and to what end? why have a universe with increasing entropy except for life which takes this weird diversion, at least temporarily, into lower entropy?), which I'll sarcastically call the "gaslighting theory of existence", and a universe that might be "materialism PLUS " which you arrogantly dismiss as "magic" by conveniently grouping it together with arguably-objectively-ridiculous arbitrary religious beliefs?
Sounds like a false-dichotomy fallacy to me
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it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…
To me, it seems like LeCun is missing the point of the (many and diverse) doom arguments. The is no need for consciousness, there is only a need for a bug. It was purely luck that Nikita Khrushchev was in New York when Thule Site J mistook the moon for a soviet attack force. There is no need for AI to seize power, humans will promote any given AI beyond the competency of that AI just as they already do with fellow hu…
One note: "It was purely luck that Nikita Khrushchev was in New York when Thule Site J mistook the moon for a soviet attack force." I cannot verify this story (ironically, I not only googled but consulted two different AI's, the brand-new "Reflection" model (which is quite impressive) as well as OpenAI's GPT4o... They both say that the Thule moon false alarm occurred a year after Khrushchev's visit to New York) Point noted though.
i wonder how long would it take for this technology to advance to a point where nice people from /r/freefolk would be able to remake seasons 7 and 8 of Game of Thrones to have a nice proper ending? 5 years, 10?
In a few years we'll have entire shows made exclusively by AI.
Let's see what Putin says about it: https://6ammc3n5zzf5ljnz.public.blob.vercel-storage.com/inf2...