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Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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err.. You know that emails transit un clear text, right?

Not if the server admins of both sides are even remotely competent. A good "email server" will at least allow, if not enforce encryption client server and (if supported by the other party) server recipients_server.

I've enforced TLS when sending email for about a year now with few problems

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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No, not every email server supports it. For example, I know that Office 365 Exchange doesn't support it as I tried it yesterday.

that just means Office 365 has a bug in it, not that using that feature is an "email hack" the plus syntax is part of the email address specification. any server that doesn't support it is by definition buggy because some mail won't work as expected or designed.

Tangentially, what's impossible to solve is all the developers out there who build input forms that will not accept an address with a "+" in it and flag it as invalid. They just use a regex that looks for alphabets, numbers, underscores, dots and one @ sign (I've also seen forms that won't accept any TLD other than .com).

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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post #143

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Which has its own problems but that's another story.

What are Protonmail's problems?

I'll cite one aspect of its design and implementation as a problem – it doesn't support standard protocols like IMAP unless you choose a paid plan. Even then, you have to use a "bridge application". On mobile, only the official app can access the mailbox. To sum it up, if you're on a free plan on ProtonMail, you cannot export your mails out (unless you do it by "printing" mails one by one). To contrast this, even "free" platforms like Gmail and Yahoo provide IMAP access to all accounts.

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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> How do you solve the "won't read my emails" problem ? 99% of the people who tell you they wouldn’t use the product unless it can’t read your email wouldn’t actually use it regardless, and are just asking for things they don’t really have any intention of using. edit: I just wanted to add I think it's kind of a dick move on pg's part to ask someone to build this when there are like four different versions that alrea…

what are the four versions that already exist?

My site https://Ahhlife.com is one of them

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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> How do you solve the "won't read my emails" problem? Have the user generate a device-local SMIME certificate for , register their certificate's public key with the server, have the server generate a mobileconfig that enforces SMIME when emailing anyone, and then in Mail.app change the From: address to when emailing the diary address. iOS will remember that From change and use SMIME to encrypt all diary messages to…

Hey! S/MIME is broken (see eFAIL) and I don’t believe there exist any mitigation’s to the attacks that have been published. tl;dr: there exist ways to read your emails without knowing the private keys.

eFAIL documents a series of client implementation errors in a 2018 paper that allow attackers to exfiltrate plaintext by emailing you your own encrypted messages with an attacker payload.

Diary site implementations will need to carefully evaluate whether this is relevant to them or to their users, who may well have been fine emailing plaintext to begin with (if you want an encrypted diary, you probably aren’t going to use email to write in it), before they assume that it’s a concern and begin testing email clients.

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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Hey! S/MIME is broken (see eFAIL) and I don’t believe there exist any mitigation’s to the attacks that have been published. tl;dr: there exist ways to read your emails without knowing the private keys.

eFAIL documents a series of client implementation errors in a 2018 paper that allow attackers to exfiltrate plaintext by emailing you your own encrypted messages with an attacker payload. Diary site implementations will need to carefully evaluate whether this is relevant to them or to their users, who may well have been fine emailing plaintext to begin with (if you want an encrypted diary, you probably aren’t going t…

IIRC this is true for PGP but not for S/MIME which was broken at the protocol level.

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822 (viz. not a gmail-specific feature)

I didn't see where the + had any special significance in RFC822 beyond being part of an atom. foo+a and foo+b could be two different recipients if the server desired.

fair enough

Re: Show HN: Write a private diary using good old email

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Working for a manufacturing company this is of my biggest pet peeves. Our Salesforce (and customers) insist that they _would/could_ sell (or buy) our product if only it had feature x. In my experience, most of those people aren’t really interested to sell (or buy) the product regardless of feature set.

Contingent Purchase Order : You put in a purchase order and we'll build feature x. Separate the wheat from the chaff.

I think this is how a lot of enterprise software is sold. Potential customer says "it's missing x", sales person says "we'll build x in two weeks", product is sold, devs have to figure out how to build x in two weeks.

That probably doesn't work for physical products.

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