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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by billy99k »

patmcc wrote: post #63
billy99k wrote: post #60

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Wow, people who walked near the capital were thrown in prison. Really? Just walked near the capital. Didn't break in, attack cops, destroy property. Really. Just walked near the capital. Wow that's crazy.

"Just walked near the capital. Didn't break in, attack cops, destroy property. "

I don't think you followed the story or cared because it involved people you didn't like. Yes, there were people that destroyed property. Others didn't even know what was going on at the time and were let into the capital building by police officers and were arrested anyway.

The Democrats in the UK were arresting people for just voicing their opinions over the last year. No outrage. Now that the UK is trying to prevent children from getting hurt online: total outrage.

It always seems to involve children..

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by arrowsmith »

DarkmSparks wrote: post #181
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's fun when the elected government doesn't do what the people who elected them want. Like a middle finger to democracy.

UK is a monarchy. More so now than ever before. They all just chasing their peerages.

> they

I'm not sure you understand what the word "monarchy" means.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by hellojesus »

wkat4242 wrote: post #137
permo-w wrote: post #104

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freedom isn't just freedom. it's freedom for. conservatives tend to favour freedom for businesses. freedom for the establishment. freedom for the rich. you would hope that progressives favour freedom for everyone, but nowadays the louder voices on the left have sometimes been over-invested in freedom for culturally marginalised groups and under-invested in freedom for economically marginalised groups

> nowadays the louder voices on the left have sometimes been over-invested in freedom for culturally marginalised groups and under-invested in freedom for economically marginalised groups That's just marketing from the right to discourage people with average income to vote left ("they want to give all your money to the immigrants!"). The only people the left doesn't want freedom for is those who are actively trying t…

> The only people the left doesn't want freedom for is those who are actively trying to take it away.

My experience is that most progressive causes want to redistribute income from high earners to low earners. Policies such as government supported housing, daycare, support this.

These policies actively restrict freedoms by removing the freedom of choice from consumers. They introduce deadweight loss and moral hazard.

Imo this is the folly of the left.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by patmcc »

billy99k wrote: post #261
patmcc wrote: post #63

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Wow, people who walked near the capital were thrown in prison. Really? Just walked near the capital. Didn't break in, attack cops, destroy property. Really. Just walked near the capital. Wow that's crazy.

"Just walked near the capital. Didn't break in, attack cops, destroy property. " I don't think you followed the story or cared because it involved people you didn't like. Yes, there were people that destroyed property. Others didn't even know what was going on at the time and were let into the capital building by police officers and were arrested anyway. The Democrats in the UK were arresting people for just voicing…

>>>Others didn't even know what was going on at the time and were let into the capital building by police officers and were arrested anyway.

If you're part of a mob and the police get out of your way that's not them "letting you in", that's them falling back as opposed to causing more violence. I think J6 folks were treated extremely gently, all things considered. If the guy in front of you breaks down a door and then you walk in behind him, you're also doing something wrong.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/capitol-police-waving-vide... for a specific fact check to the "police waved them in" claim.

>>>The Democrats in the UK

Those aren't the Democrats. I do think the UK is going too far with their speech controls and their "online safety" laws.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by davidcollantes »

marssaxman wrote: post #138
MiddleEndian wrote: post #116

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lol on a much lighter note, for many years I used to use 111-111-1111 as a general phone number for CVS card discounts. It stopped working several years ago though.

XXX-867-5309 still works everywhere I try it, where "XXX" is the local area code.

I have also used XXX-555-1212, and it has worked everywhere.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by ryandv »

hellojesus wrote: post #263
wkat4242 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> nowadays the louder voices on the left have sometimes been over-invested in freedom for culturally marginalised groups and under-invested in freedom for economically marginalised groups That's just marketing from the right to discourage people with average income to vote left ("they want to give all your money to the immigrants!"). The only people the left doesn't want freedom for is those who are actively trying t…

> The only people the left doesn't want freedom for is those who are actively trying to take it away. My experience is that most progressive causes want to redistribute income from high earners to low earners. Policies such as government supported housing, daycare, support this. These policies actively restrict freedoms by removing the freedom of choice from consumers. They introduce deadweight loss and moral hazard.…

> My experience is that most progressive causes want to redistribute income from high earners to low earners.

> These policies actively restrict freedoms by removing the freedom of choice from consumers.

Moreover despite all the constant pearl clutching about "systemic imbalances in resources between whites and People of Color" from the progressive left, you will find that most of these policies actually transfer wealth from the middle and upper-middle class ethnic minority demographics to rich white nepotists in the government.

If progressives were actually serious about correcting racial wealth disparities, we would implement a taxation scheme that taxes whites more heavily, and ethnic minorities less so, based on some metric of the overall injustices visited upon them.

Instead, the instant an ethnic minority gets a leg up on the system all the crabs in the progressive bucket demand that he get pulled back down. The words and slogans about "equity" are just hymnal responses that the white progressive uses to absolve themselves of all responsibility and accountability, since after accepting the Code of Conduct and the DEI statement they've already been "born again" out of the original sins of implicit bias and racism.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by DarkmSparks »

arrowsmith wrote: post #262
DarkmSparks wrote: post #181

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UK is a monarchy. More so now than ever before. They all just chasing their peerages.

> they I'm not sure you understand what the word "monarchy" means.

It means the Brits get to elect who will agree to do and say exactly what the King and his mafioso family tells them to do and say.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by AlecSchueler »

pjc50 wrote: post #258
AlecSchueler wrote: post #243

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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/part/4/chapter/... It talks explicitly about verifying your identity, not your age, so no loopholes today I'm afraid

.. for Category 1 services. I've already noted that several age verification services explicitly promise _not_ to retain your identity. I'm having trouble working out what's category 1. Schedule 1 defines exemptions https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/schedule/1/part... ; otherwise this refers OFCOM to "critera" which I can't find. As I understand it, Wikipedia are seeking judicial review of OFCOM's placing…

I made no mention of identity retention.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Post by lambertsimnel »

NekkoDroid wrote: post #230
ben_w wrote: post #36

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Unless they're being filmed while watching it because they watched it in parliament: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/neil-parish-b...

Didn't something similar also happen recently in the US (I think on a state level)?

That was Oklahoma State Superintendent Ryan Walters:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/07/28/oklahoma-superintende...

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