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Post by universa1 »

archon810 wrote: post #173
hadrien01 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've done the same thing with dizqueTv for my grandmother. On her Android TV, I was able to integrate the IPTV channels on the same channels list, so she can simply use the remote to navigate between the digital channels and the IPTV channels (30 for Hercule Poirot, 31 for classic B&W movies, etc.)

dizqueTv, ErsatzTV... these are the "Chinese company names on Amazon" of TV app names.

No clue about dizqueTV, but ErsatzTV is German for tv replacement/substitute :-) so it has a little more meaning then the Chinese Amazon names ;-)

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Post by randomdata »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #66
arethuza wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've long since concluded that YouTube's ads are merely a way of persuading me to upgrade to Premium. Given that they actually seem to be pretty good at recommending content to me I am mystified by why the ad selection is so awful.

I got a f'n Trump asking for money ad on YT last night. The algorithm should know better than to serve me something like that.

Because you are already a donor?

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Post by squeaky-clean »

recursive wrote: post #198
tantalor wrote: post #6

The best part of this is the channel doesn't pause when you flip away from it. It is always "running" and if you flip away you will miss it. That builds in a FOMO trade-off which causes user to automatically/subconciously decide on channel they most want to watch, because they can't watch everything.

I don't see how this is a good thing. It's a totally artificial constraint. It's already impossible to watch everything on youtube. I don't want software I use to instill fear as a design goal, detached from any of the outcomes of user actions.

Because like TV, when you're watching something, you know other people are watching exactly the same thing. And that's pretty cool.

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Post by langcss »

tantalor wrote: post #6

The best part of this is the channel doesn't pause when you flip away from it. It is always "running" and if you flip away you will miss it. That builds in a FOMO trade-off which causes user to automatically/subconciously decide on channel they most want to watch, because they can't watch everything.

That is what it was like in the 90s! Although you could use your VCR to record the other channel.

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Post by langcss »

lucasoshiro wrote: post #32

This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

Sitcoms solve this. Just watch your favourite one again.

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Post by rnewme »

jeffhuys wrote: post #187

Also works on localhost, run these commands: `wget -r -np -k https://ytch.xyz ` - downloads the website recursively `wget https://ytch.xyz/list.json ` - download the list of what every channel plays and will play (I'm not sure if this ever really changes. The real website adds ?t= ) Then for instance run `python3 -m http.server` and visit localhost:8000 :)

JSON looks like tinydb

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Post by randomdata »

butlike wrote: post #116
lucasoshiro wrote: post #32

This is something I always wonder... Something that I really miss from TV on internet content (YouTube, movie streamings and so on) is turn it on and watching what's being transmitted without thinking about what I wanna see. Three reasons: 1. Picking something to watch takes time. Sometimes I only want to see something in the 15 minutes that I'm dining alone. My meal gets cold before I start the video 2. Choosing som…

WHY is there not an "I'm feeling lucky" button for streaming services. Akin to "give me anything," though, I suspect the answer is the more time spent scrolling, the less data has to be streamed over the wire, so it's cheaper.

More likely it is the inverse: Selecting a random video at scale is the costly problem.

You can certainly fake it as a workaround. For example, you'll notice that "I'm feeling lucky" on Google simply follows the first search result. Streaming services could take what is already computed as the first result on the "Home" page and use that, for example.

But at that point why not just click on the first video? Unlike Google, which doesn't give you much until you enter a search query, all of the streaming services I know of have already given you your "lucky" matches by the time a "I'm feeling lucky button" could be presented. Two buttons side-by-side that do the exact same thing doesn't offer much.

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