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Your need to sort people based on trigger phrases says it all.
No, it really doesn't. You're reacting super defensively throughout this entire thread. It's a really bad look.
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> Extremely depraved things are not the only thing to use freedom of speech for I’m not a fan of “think of the children“ arguments but the Internet cannot actually be a complete free for all and “freedom of speech” is not some magic shield that overrides all other ethical considerations. CSAM is not a particularly high bar and frankly if you want people to throw in with you then you can’t brush it off so lightly.
> I’m not a fan of “think of the children“ arguments Yet you're making one. > the Internet cannot actually be a complete free for all Yet in many important ways, it is. As much as publishers would like to shut down Scihub, it exists. The Pirate Bay famously persists. Nation states with entirely opposed legal systems connect and interoperate to at least some degree.
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> "If you think a specific statement was wrong, harmful, or dishonest, then explain why" > someone picks a specific statement > "If the use of a single phrase... is enough to make you dismiss someone entirely" Bro, you asked for a specific statement. Was GP actually supposed to provide N specific statements, where N is a hidden number known only to you?
How was that "wrong, harmful, or dishonest" - specifically?
I've met a lot of folks in software who think contradicting themselves in order to "gotcha" the other person is some form of being clever. You can't really have success reasoning them out of it; they think being incorrigible is the same as winning.
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How was that "wrong, harmful, or dishonest" - specifically?
Your goal, I think, is to build a movement around Freenet. How does bringing in "the woke mind virus" or "virtue signaling" into a technical conversation help build your movement vs. cause people to tune out?
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You'd be surprised how mainstream these views are outside certain bubbles.
No, i wouldn't be surprised how ignorant, selfish and deceitful other Americans are, you included. Mainstream isn't the same as right. Dude like this asshole would be fine with us keeping drinking fountains and lunch counters segregated, because thats how we've always done things. Remember folks, there’s no such thing as “too much perspective” and when you get it wrong you look like this silver -haired, privileged ,…
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No, i wouldn't be surprised how ignorant, selfish and deceitful other Americans are, you included. Mainstream isn't the same as right. Dude like this asshole would be fine with us keeping drinking fountains and lunch counters segregated, because thats how we've always done things. Remember folks, there’s no such thing as “too much perspective” and when you get it wrong you look like this silver -haired, privileged ,…
The personal insults really lend credibility to your argument.
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> to something that does not share the same goals so "fork" is arguable here How do the goals differ, specifically? > but I cannot help but notice that some has likely been misappropriated You had no visibility into the project's finances, yet you're publicly implying financial impropriety without evidence. I've raised substantially more funding for the new Freenet in the past 5 years than was raised during the entir…
You make claims. Release the books, and people can then verify what you say. If you do not release the books, it is only natural for many people to suspect something wrong.
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> If anybody gets to decide what we will call Freenet, it’s him. Perhaps. Though reusing the name for an entirely different project with a different codebase is disingenuous to say the least. That won't do his reputation any good, especially in a field where reputation matters .
> Though reusing the name for an entirely different project with a different codebase is disingenuous to say the least. Same project, same goals, and it's not even the first time we started with a fresh codebase - we did it in 2008. > That won't do his reputation any good, especially in a field where reputation matters. This drama never comes up anywhere except HN where it seems to be the obsession of a small number…
Many on here beg to differ.
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#249It feels like the state merging approach just pushes the hard problems onto the user, without giving them the tools to solve those problems properly. Imagine an application where an authorized group of users can create and vote in polls, using cryptographic signatures and public/private keys for user verification. What prevents me from connecting and saying that "everybody's state is wrong, that poll in 2024 which di…
Appreciate the feedback. > It feels like the state merging approach just pushes the hard problems onto the user, without giving them the tools to solve those problems properly. We've created many of these tools, and have used them to implement practical applications like group chat, a CMS, and a social network, and we and others will build many more tools over time. Designing applications for Freenet can require some…
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If his definition of woke mind virus is "identitarianism", then it's agree that it's fucking awful. But I wouldn't call it "woke mind virus". Identitarianism is a cancer, that has been fed via social media algorithms. We seem to have invented a machine for rewarding all of the wrong incentives. Who would have thought that phenomena like audience capture & polarised thought bubbles would be in the palm of the hand, di…
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* You made the mailing list post on 22 Jan 2023.
* Elon Musk first used the phrase (on Twitter, at least) on 19 Dec 2021. [0]
* As of May 2022 at the latest, he was regularly using it in tweets, including ones with tens and hundreds of thousands of likes. [1][2][3]
* By the end of 2022, "woke mind virus" was well-known enough that other users were cracking jokes about it. [4][5]
[0] https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1472371245744373760#m
[1] https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1516600269899026432#m
[2] https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1526975113597489154#m
[3] https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1527356085090545664#m
[4] https://xcancel.com/ditzkoff/status/1602283284947427329#m
[5] https://xcancel.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/160521361079977984...