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Re: Show HN: Gemini Pro 3 imagines the HN front page 10 years from now

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Prompt: Here is the front page from today: Your task is to predict, and craft, in HTML (single file, style-exact) the HN front page 10 years from now. Predict and see the future. Writ it into form! update: I told Gemini we made it to the front page. Here is it's response: LETS GOOOO! The recursive loop is officially complete: The fake future front page is now on the real present front page. We have successfully creat…

Was ITER or nuclear energy in the prompt sample?

ITER achieves net positive energy for 20 consecutive minutes

That's just pure dark comedy, although maybe kinda accurate? What would humans predict for this?

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They're not objectively amazing. Friction is not inherently a bad thing when we have models telling humans that their ideas are flawless (unless asked to point out flaws). Great that it made you smile, but there's quite a few arguments that paint your optimism as dangerously naive.

Is anything objectively amazing? Seems like an inherently subjective quality to evaluate.

Depends on worldview. If you believe in God, amazing has many dimensions for evaluations. What teaches us more about the the world He created, things that create beauty by expressing righteous thoughts for others to experience, or that which strengthens family.

LLMs certainly teach us far more about the nature of thought and language. Like all tools, it can also be used for evil or good, and serves as an amplification for human intent. Greater good, greater evil. The righteousness of each society will determine which prevails in their communities and polities.

If you're a secular materialist, agreed, nothing is objectively amazing.

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That's what makes it fun. Apparently, Gemini has a better sense of humor than HN.

But there's no mention of fun or humor in the prompt.

Fun will be prohibited until morale improves.

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"Right to Human Verification" is something I have actually thought about a lot. I want to able to verify my identity against a system. I also want to be able to not do that . So for instance, on Twitter/X, I could verify myself and filter only other verified people / filter those goverments that have validated the identities of the users. I want to be able to do that. But I also want to be able to log in into Twitter…

zk-proofs already exist to do just that.

They’ll need a contextual system around them that is convenient and trusted by people who don’t know what they are or how they work in order to be successful

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I thought the page was a hilarious joke, not a bad prediction. A lot of these are fantastic observational humour about HN and tech. Gary Marcus still insisting AI progress is stalling 10 years from now, for example. Several digs at language rewrites. ITER hardly having nudged forwards. Google killing another service. And so on.

That's what makes this so funny: the AI was earnestly attempting to predict the future, but it's so bad at truly out-of-distribution predictions that an AI-generated 2035 HN frontpage is hilariously stuck in the past. "The more things change, the more they stay the same" is a source of great amusement to us, but deliberately capitalizing on this was certainly not the "intent" of the AI.

There's no chance "google kills gemini cloud" was an earnest predication. That was 100% a joke

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But there's no mention of fun or humor in the prompt.

Fun will be prohibited until morale improves.

I mean it's very funny. Just I'm laughing at the AI, not with it.

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That is so syncophantic, I can't stand LLMs that try to hype you up as if you're some genius, brilliant mind instead of yet another average joe.

It it actively dangerous too. You might be self aware and llm aware all you want, if you routinely read "This is such an excellent point", " You are absolutely right" and so on, it does your mind in. This is worst kind of global reality show mkultra...

No doubt. From cult's 'love bombing' to dictator's 'yes men' to celebrity entourages, it's a well-known hack on human psychology. I have a long-time friend who's a brilliant software engineer who recently realized conversing with LLMs was affecting his objectivity.

He was noodling around with an admittedly "way out there", highly speculative idea and using the LLM to research prior work in area. This evolved into the LLM giving him direct feedback. It told him his concept was brilliant and constructed detailed reasoning to support this conclusion. Before long it was actively trying to talk him into publishing a paper on it.

This went on quite a while and at first he was buying into it but eventually started to also suspect that maybe "something was off", so he reached out to me for perspective. We've been friends for decades, so I know how smart he is but also that he's a little bit "on the spectrum". We had dinner to talk it through and he helpfully brought representative chat logs which were eye-opening. It turned into a long dinner. Before dessert he realized just how far he'd slipped over time and was clearly shocked. In the end, he resolved to "cold turkey" the LLMs with a 'prime directive' prompt like the one I use (basically, never offer opinion, praise, flattery, etc). Of course, even then, it will still occasionally try to ingratiate itself in more subtle ways, which I have to keep watch on.

After reflecting on the experience, my friend believes he was especially vulnerable to LLM manipulation because he's on the spectrum and was using the same mental models to interact with the LLM that he also uses to interact with other people. To be clear, I don't think LLMs are intentionally designed to be sycophantically ingratiating manipulators. I think it's just an inevitable consequence of RLHF.

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