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Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by sanity »

cess11 wrote: post #189
sanity wrote: post #166

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How is offering the user more choice with respect to anonymity changing the goals of the project?

I kind of see "focus" in the FAQ and "goals" in this thread as interchangeable. It would surprise me if this would not be a common interpretation of these texts alone among the readers here. As for the general reputation of the OG Freenet in this lineage, to the extent I'm aware, anonymity was pretty much the defining characteristic. More or less everything else in the user experience suffered to some extent compared…

If we're doing archaeology, my original 1999 paper was called "A Distributed Decentralized Information Storage and Retrieval System".

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by sanity »

FEELmyAGI wrote: post #228
sanity wrote: post #111

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I'm told I kinda look like him too. There are worse people to be compared to.

Curtis Yarvin is a much better comparison, what with the inscrutable decentralized network software and being a culture war crusader

Someone digs up obscure 3-year-old posts to a defunct mailing list and suddenly I'm a "culture war crusader" sigh

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by LoganDark »

Gigachad wrote: post #225
LoganDark wrote: post #220

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> nobody gets busted for running a Tor relay. Citation needed? IIRC, the general advice for running a Tor relay is "don't, unless you want an endless supply of abuse complaints". So you'd require a jurisdiction that ignores abuse complaints.

That’s for an exit node. Relays only relay fully encrypted traffic within the Tor network so there is no way to know what was being accessed. They never connect to non Tor servers so they don’t get flagged as abuse.

Oh, you're right.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by sanity »

raffraffraff wrote: post #178
kstrauser wrote: post #76

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WTF. These are some of the first things I clicked through on that page: - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... - https://www.mail-archive.com/devl@freenetproject.org/msg5534... Gee, I can't imagine how that mailing list could ever be toxic.

If his definition of woke mind virus is "identitarianism", then it's agree that it's fucking awful. But I wouldn't call it "woke mind virus". Identitarianism is a cancer, that has been fed via social media algorithms. We seem to have invented a machine for rewarding all of the wrong incentives. Who would have thought that phenomena like audience capture & polarised thought bubbles would be in the palm of the hand, di…

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Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by abc123abc123 »

sanity wrote: post #209
nextgens wrote: post #180

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You're getting this wrong. He has forked the project (to something that does not share the same goals so "fork" is arguable here), took the name, the cash and the goodwill. We went from "we have enough donations/donators" to "how do we pay for the upcoming AWS bill?". As someone who has been fairly active on the "old freenet", I have never cared about money nor funding... but I cannot help but notice that some has li…

> to something that does not share the same goals so "fork" is arguable here How do the goals differ, specifically? > but I cannot help but notice that some has likely been misappropriated You had no visibility into the project's finances, yet you're publicly implying financial impropriety without evidence. I've raised substantially more funding for the new Freenet in the past 5 years than was raised during the entir…

You make claims. Release the books, and people can then verify what you say. If you do not release the books, it is only natural for many people to suspect something wrong.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by outside2344 »

sanity wrote: post #214
cynicalkane wrote: post #208

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> "If you think a specific statement was wrong, harmful, or dishonest, then explain why" > someone picks a specific statement > "If the use of a single phrase... is enough to make you dismiss someone entirely" Bro, you asked for a specific statement. Was GP actually supposed to provide N specific statements, where N is a hidden number known only to you?

How was that "wrong, harmful, or dishonest" - specifically?

Your goal, I think, is to build a movement around Freenet.

How does bringing in "the woke mind virus" or "virtue signaling" into a technical conversation help build your movement vs. cause people to tune out?

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by outside2344 »

sanity wrote: post #57
dharmatech wrote: post #50

I definitely think we should be exploring decentralized approaches to services we use. I also would like to see an emphasis on local-first approaches. This experiment, in the spirit of UNIX, composes git and text files to form a social network: https://github.com/dharmatech/9social Video demo: https://youtu.be/q6qVnlCjcAI

Interesting, we've also experimented with hosting git repos on Freenet, see: https://github.com/freenet/freenet-git

Consider in your presentations leading with this as a demo to motivate the technical infrastructure you've put in place.

It is hard to grok what Contracts, etc. etc. allow you to do in the abstract so working through how it allows us to build a decentralized GitHub might be a good anchor in a tangible use case.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by nullstyle »

sanity wrote: post #122
spankalee wrote: post #119

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> The woke mind virus, more formally postmodern neo-marxism, is the greatest threat to civilization today. "The woke mind virus" really? You used that non-ironically? This is not something a serious or sane person would say for real.

You'd be surprised how mainstream these views are outside certain bubbles.

No, i wouldn't be surprised how ignorant, selfish and deceitful other Americans are, you included. Mainstream isn't the same as right.

Dude like this asshole would be fine with us keeping drinking fountains and lunch counters segregated, because thats how we've always done things.

Remember folks, there’s no such thing as “too much perspective” and when you get it wrong you look like this silver -haired, privileged , rich as fuck bigot.

Re: Show HN: Freenet, a peer-to-peer platform for decentralized apps

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Post by pessimizer »

sanity wrote: post #214
cynicalkane wrote: post #208

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> "If you think a specific statement was wrong, harmful, or dishonest, then explain why" > someone picks a specific statement > "If the use of a single phrase... is enough to make you dismiss someone entirely" Bro, you asked for a specific statement. Was GP actually supposed to provide N specific statements, where N is a hidden number known only to you?

How was that "wrong, harmful, or dishonest" - specifically?

You don't understand. All they have to do is repeat what you've said with a snarky tone, tag it with an extreme insult, then imply that it makes you unfit to be employed, even if you are self-employed. Your duty is to apologize, and promise to do better.

Specificity is literally gaslighting.

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