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Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Stupid stuff openclaw did for me: - Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned) - Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by ha…

filing spam issues can easily get the account banned if it annoys the wrong maintainers.

In that case I'm glad they banned it, had no idea it was going to do something so stupid!

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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Stupid stuff openclaw did for me: - Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned) - Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by ha…

What was the task you asked it to do that it decided to do these?

I asked it to get its self set up and ready to be a helpful marketing assistant for a web based product. I'd intentionally kept it vague and told it to be proactive which was probably what caused it. Lesson learnt!

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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post #132

Stupid stuff openclaw did for me: - Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned) - Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by ha…

Did you give it your credit card? Wouldn't a crypto wallet with a small amount deposited be smarter?

Nope, Kimi K2.5 is free on opencode at the moment, it was using that.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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post #225

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Don't put words in my mouth, you don't care about safety not me. And for what it's worth I'm an electrical engineer first, so if you have some inferiority complex about software you don't have to apply it to me.

Hey, you're the one who said "faster is better", not me

Consider applying the strongest version of an argument than the weakest. Obviously faster it's better means to a similar standard. Not faster due to a shittier standard.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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I went down this rabbit hole a bit recently trying to use claude inside fence[0] and it seems that on macOS, claude stores this token inside Keychain. I'm not sure there's a way to expose that to a container... my guess would be no, especially since it seems the container is Linux, and also because keeping the Keychain out of reach of containers seems like it would be paramount. But someone might know better! 0: http…

> "I went down this rabbit hole a bit recently trying to use claude inside fence[0]" Did you get it working in the end? I assume you didn't share your setup/config anywhere?

Yeah, forgot when I wrote this comment that the thing about keychain was to pass that auth token into a Docker container, which I gave up on (Tauri desktop app needs to compile Rust and link against other stuff, different architecture inside the container blah blah)

More or less what it says in the README:

    fence -t code -- claude --dangerously-skip-permissions
Or wrap it in a function as an alias

    # cat prompt.md | ralph
    function ralph() {
      fence -t code -- \
        claude --verbose --dangerously-skip-permissions --output-format stream-json -p "$@" \
        | jq -r 'select(.type == "assistant") | .message.content[]? | select(.type? == "text") | .text'
    }

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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post #132

Stupid stuff openclaw did for me: - Created its own github account, then proceeded to get itself banned (I have no idea what it did, all it said was it created some new repos and opened issues, clearly it must've done a bit more than that to get banned) - Signed up for a Gmail account using a pay as you go sim in an old android handset connected with ADB for sms reading, and again proceeded to get itself banned by ha…

This kind of automated task, if not properly optimized, is basically a waste-of-money garbage software. Any bug can cause it to loop until all the money is spent.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

#238
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This look nice! I was curious about being allowed to use a Claude Pro/Max subscription vs an API key, since there's been so much buzz about that lately, so I went looking for a solid answer. Thankfully the official Agent SDK Quickstart guide says that you can: https://platform.claude.com/docs/en/agent-sdk/quickstart In particular, this bit: "After installing Claude Code onto your machine, run claude in your terminal…

Ha. 4 days later it no longer says that and that doesn't appear to be supported anymore. Now the SDK requires an API key.

Re: Show HN: NanoClaw – “Clawdbot” in 500 lines of TS with Apple container isolation

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This is my understanding as well. If GPT made money the companies that run them would be publicly traded? Furthermore, companies which are publicly traded show that overall the products are not economical. Meta and MSFT are great examples of this, though they have recently seen opposite sides of investors appraising their results. Notably, OpenAI and MSFT are more closely linked than any other Mag7 companies with an…

Going public is not a trivial thing for a company to do. You may want to bring in additional facts to support your thesis.

Fwiw I’m not making a comment on companies which have transitioned from private to public or doing any sort of strategic analysis related to that. I’m merely saying if we index on publicly traded companies which have made substantial AI investments, the story isn’t super clear, i.e. as an investor there is not yet a solid positive thesis for the economics of LLM that would rate the tech as a buy. It doesn’t help that information is sparse here and that AI investments in general is clustered around a few megacap stocks with other interests outside of AI writ large
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