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Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by pibaker »

jjmarr wrote: post #214
pibaker wrote: post #202

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No country capable of landing a single troop on the lower 48 is scared of undisciplined men with AR-15s. In fact I am not sure if any country can get a troop transport near the US coast without being nuked to the ground first.

In the 1930s and 1940s, Mexico wanted to invade Texas and reverse the Mexican American war.

I can't find any source suggesting this was actually a thing in the 30s and 40s. All I can find is the Zimmerman telegram from a hundred years ago which the Mexicans weren't exactly enthusiastic about.

In any case, I doubt there is any realistic threat of a Mexican invasion beyond fantasizing from political fringes.

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by iknowstuff »

strbean wrote: post #172
TulliusCicero wrote: post #162

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> "Why should we subsidize package / letter delivery to people in the sticks?" Good point, it doesn't make much sense to do that either. > The economic benefit of making those people available as consumers, lowering barriers to their engagement in markets, is enormous and certainly pays for itself. Or , we could zone areas to encourage people to live in towns where it's feasible for both corporations and the governme…

> Or, we could zone areas to encourage people to live in towns where it's feasible for both corporations and the government to provide infrastructure and services at a reasonable cost. This is assuming there isn't a good reason why we might want some percentage of the population to be rural. To have farms and ranches, for example.

Farmers and ranches don’t need any more incentive to live there on top of the boatload of money they make selling their produce

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by razingeden »

sunshinekitty wrote: post #211
modeless wrote: post #197

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You have it exactly backwards. It is far less complex and expensive and resource intensive to build Starlink than to run a new copper or fiber line with associated telecom equipment on both sides to every rural residence in the US, let alone worldwide. Yes, despite the large cost of launching satellites. And it's especially good that we don't have to force everyone to subsidize inefficient monopoly utilities with our…

The HN groupthink is to hate on anything Elon adjacent, satellite internet included.

hopefully that include his business partners , airlines in this case.

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by pbh101 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #189
poulsbohemian wrote: post #178

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>It’s not clear to me that we should necessarily massively subsidize their choice to live in the sticks these days. Last year I had a chance to talk to Gregg Coburn, author of Homelessness is a Housing Problem. We agreed that remote work and improved public transportation were the real solutions to many of our housing problems, allowing greater distribution of population back into more rural areas. This is an area wh…

Decentralizing population seems at odds with goals like better public transport and infrastructure.

Who said those two were the ultimate goals to work towards?

Re: Show HN: Will my flight have Starlink?

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Post by disconcision »

6thbit wrote: post #181

Why does it work on the plane? are the constant handoffs between satellites not enough to break connections or cause extremely high packet loss for it to suck? is there a speed at which it would break?

speed of plane is about 3% speed of satellite so i wouldn't expect handoffs to be much more frequent than with stationary receivers?

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Post by jasonwatkinspdx »

TulliusCicero wrote: post #186
jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #170

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I'm a social democrat, I'm fine with subsidies in general, I just want them to be applied intelligently. Spending a lot of money to subsidize someone's lifestyle that's intentionally inefficient isn't smart. I'm all for helping the poor, but we should do it in a way that gets us a lot of bang for the buck.

Having grown up in rural Kansas and now being an urban tech worker, I think you have a derogatory and ignorant view on people who live rurally.

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Post by nailer »

galleywest200 wrote: post #206
iknowstuff wrote: post #127

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People in the United States can choose to live in very rural and sparsely populated areas, far more remote than most OECD countries. It’s not clear to me that we should necessarily massively subsidize their choice to live in the sticks these days. Starlink and 5G are great for this, as is solar energy and batteries. We already subsidize sprawl’s expensive-per-person infrastructure with tax revenue from dense cities.…

Moving is incredibly expensive. First+Last month rent up-front, plus a deposit equal to one month rent up-front. That could total around $10,000 up-front costs if you are targeting a major city. Conversely, having quality utilities in smaller communities could incentivize the building up of those areas and they would become less rural.

lol I paid 17K for NYC - two months rent, extra month for being foreign, 2K since they removed blinds since they showed me the apartment and everyone in NYC could see into my house.
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