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Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Yes, people prefer to get stuff for free rather than paying for it. That's not a very interesting insight.

There is no way to pay google to get features like these or like what yt-dlp offers. If there was I would have gladly paid.

Riight. I subscribed once, seeing they offered a download option. And it downloaded like a 720p terrible quality video... I unsubscribed.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

#222

I kind of wish people would stop making yt-dlp more accessible and increasing Google's desire to shut it down.

I don't think they can ever kill it. Something else will rise. There is too much demand for it.

Seeing how people still seem to find a way to get the raw video data from the big paid streaming services (e.g. netflix), and the likes of bluray, I feel you are right.

Where there is enough demand, people will find a way.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Yes, people prefer to get stuff for free rather than paying for it. That's not a very interesting insight.

> prefer to get stuff for free rather than paying for it This is how you describe a glorified VCR?

What is describing is a platform that reimplements the YouTube frontend with the primary purpose being not having ads without paying.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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post #211

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What? Literally all those services have piracy problems, and pretty much any time piracy drops it's because of more effective DRM, not service.

Counterexample: steam They seem to be the only ones who get how piracy can be fought. And its no secret either, gabe newell has that "piracy is a service issue" quote for anyone to read. Its just that these companies dont want to consider not squeezing the life out of their users for shareholder benefit

Games have the best DRM of all though. They have extremely complex to crack software drm, integrate with 3rd party servers for online, and run the risk of installing malware if you get a bad cracked copy.

Steam does do a great job of making stuff accessible and convenient. But plenty of people would still pirate over paying $90 for the new game if it wasn’t so hard.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Agreed. Youtube downloaders are essential for backup purposes and for getting clips to put in your own videos as fair use. But people turning them in to fully user facing ad free frontends are driving the crackdown on the tools so we will end up with no way at all to download videos.. Would be nice if Youtube just let premium users download the actual video files. What I find interesting is how so many of the Chinese…

> how so many of the Chinese social media platforms just let you download videos The rate things are going I’ll just have to use those sites instead. YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. A good middle ground would be for YouTube to just give uploaders an option to enable downloads. I do agree that people need to STOP trying to make yt-dl…

> YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t.

It depends on the jurisdiction actually. In mine (France) and a few others, the right to save material is granted to every citizen no matter the license of the said material as long as the copy is made for private use only (it's called «droit à la copie privée» which translates to “right to private copy”).

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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Why disable youtube history? I have it enabled, and my subscription page works fine.

Disabling YouTube history makes two additional changes: no more "algorithmically curated" videos in your YouTube homepage and no more YouTube Shorts rabbithole.

Right. This works against personalisation (and thus addictiveness I assume). I use an extension (unhook) that basically redirects youtube.com to youtube.com/feed/subscriptions, and hides any shorts, so I can keep my youtube history.

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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post #142

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I mean, the root of the problem is that there is essentially only one "Youtube" that isn't a public service. Not sure if you make this better by leaning into it or not.

Why should it be a public service?

Pretty much everything that's

- High fixed cost

- Low or zero marginal cost

and

- very important to a lot of people

fits the bill for a public service?

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

#229

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> how so many of the Chinese social media platforms just let you download videos The rate things are going I’ll just have to use those sites instead. YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. A good middle ground would be for YouTube to just give uploaders an option to enable downloads. I do agree that people need to STOP trying to make yt-dl…

> YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. It depends on the jurisdiction actually. In mine (France) and a few others, the right to save material is granted to every citizen no matter the license of the said material as long as the copy is made for private use only (it's called «droit à la copie privée» which translates to “right to private c…

Canada also has private copying (and pays a levy on blank media to pay for it, although at this point we're pretty firmly out of the blank media era).

https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/strategic-policy-sector/en/...

(What a classic Canadian government URL that is.)

Re: Show HN: A personal YouTube frontend based on yt-dlp

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> how so many of the Chinese social media platforms just let you download videos The rate things are going I’ll just have to use those sites instead. YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. A good middle ground would be for YouTube to just give uploaders an option to enable downloads. I do agree that people need to STOP trying to make yt-dl…

> YouTube is a weird position. A lot of content is public domain and should be freely downloaded. Other content isn’t. It depends on the jurisdiction actually. In mine (France) and a few others, the right to save material is granted to every citizen no matter the license of the said material as long as the copy is made for private use only (it's called «droit à la copie privée» which translates to “right to private c…

Does this mandate American companies provide a mechanism for a personal copy ?

In theory YouTube could geo lock these features if made to implement it.

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