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Re: Show HN: Infinity – Realistic AI characters that can speak

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There's nothing particularly original about the UI, it's literally just a basic image upload and sound upload. I can easily see every hyperscaler AI firm offering something similar within one year so no need to get on your high horse about this.

Re: Show HN: Infinity – Realistic AI characters that can speak

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Given that I don't agree with many of Yann LeCun's stances on AI, I enjoyed making this: https://6ammc3n5zzf5ljnz.public.blob.vercel-storage.com/inf2... Hello I'm an AI-generated version of Yann LeCoon. As an unbiased expert, I'm not worried about AI. ... If somehow an AI gets out of control ... it will be my good AI against your bad AI. ... After all, what does history show us about technology-fueled conflicts among…

it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…

To me, it seems like LeCun is missing the point of the (many and diverse) doom arguments.

The is no need for consciousness, there is only a need for a bug. It was purely luck that Nikita Khrushchev was in New York when Thule Site J mistook the moon for a soviet attack force.

There is no need for AI to seize power, humans will promote any given AI beyond the competency of that AI just as they already do with fellow humans ("the Peter principle").

The relative number of good and bad actors — even if we could agree on what that even meant, which we can't, especially with commons issues, iterated prisoners' dilemmas, and other similar Nash equilibria — doesn't help either way when the AI isn't aligned with the user.

(You may ask what I mean by "alignment", and in this case I mean vector cosine similarity "how closely will it do what the user really wants it to do, rather than what the creator of the AI wants, or what nobody at all wants because it's buggy?")

But even then, AI compute is proportional to how much money you have, so it's not a democratic battle, it's an oligarchic battle.

And even then, reality keeps demonstrating the incorrectness of the saying "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun", it's much easier to harm and destroy than to heal and build.

And that's without anyone needing to reach for "consciousness in the machines" (whichever of the 40-something definitions of "consciousness" you prefer).

Likewise it doesn't need plausible-future-but-not-yet-demonstrated things like "engineering a pandemic" or "those humanoid robots in the news right now, could we use them as the entire workforce in a factory to make more of them?"

Re: Show HN: Infinity – Realistic AI characters that can speak

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post #195

Given that I don't agree with many of Yann LeCun's stances on AI, I enjoyed making this: https://6ammc3n5zzf5ljnz.public.blob.vercel-storage.com/inf2... Hello I'm an AI-generated version of Yann LeCoon. As an unbiased expert, I'm not worried about AI. ... If somehow an AI gets out of control ... it will be my good AI against your bad AI. ... After all, what does history show us about technology-fueled conflicts among…

it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…

> consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven true.

Wait. Isn't literally the exactly other way around? Materialism is the null hypothesis here, backed by all empirical evidence to date; it's all the other hypotheses presenting some kind of magic that are BS until proven.

Re: Show HN: Infinity – Realistic AI characters that can speak

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post #195

Given that I don't agree with many of Yann LeCun's stances on AI, I enjoyed making this: https://6ammc3n5zzf5ljnz.public.blob.vercel-storage.com/inf2... Hello I'm an AI-generated version of Yann LeCoon. As an unbiased expert, I'm not worried about AI. ... If somehow an AI gets out of control ... it will be my good AI against your bad AI. ... After all, what does history show us about technology-fueled conflicts among…

it’s hard to disagree with him with any empirical basis when all of his statements seem empirically sound and all of his opponent’s AI Doomer statements seem like evidenceless FUD I couldn’t help noticing that all the AI Doomer folks are pure materialists who think that consciousness and will can be completely encoded in cause-and-effect atomic relationships. The real problem is that that belief is BS until proven tr…

It's a food thing our fate won't be sealed by a difference in metaphysical beliefs.

Re: Show HN: Infinity – Realistic AI characters that can speak

#229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, you’ve got one video on your homepage and everything else is locked behind a signup button. I know that signup requirement is an article of faith amongst some startup types, but it’s not a surprise to me shareable examples lead to sharing.

We have a sign-up because we ensure users accept our terms of service and acceptable use policy before creating their first video, which affirms they understand how their data is used (legally required in most US states) and will not use our technology to cause harm.

>legally required in most US states

Funny how other sites can do this with a birthday dropdown, an IP address, and a checkbox.

>We have a sign-up because we ensure users accept our terms of service and acceptable use policy before creating their first video

So your company would have no problem going on record saying that they will never email you for any reason, including marketing, and your email will never be shared or sold even in the event of a merger or acquisition? Because this is the problem people have with sign-up ... and the main reason most start-ups want it.

I am not necessarily for or against required sign-ups, but I do understand people that are adamantly against them.

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