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Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by ldubost »

z0mbie42 wrote: post #219
ldubost wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from France too, and Mozilla is already more known than many others in the Open Source space, and their user base is still huge compared to anything else. Z0mbie42 is young and did not see when Mozilla was the browser alternative before Google Chrome and stole the show. It is coming back today though because users start to realize the "Google problem". Now Mozilla is a browser alternative and not a services one.…

Hi, I would love to be in touch, please contact me: https://bloom.sh/contact As being a huge topic, federation is planned for Q3/Q4 2020. I checked cryptpad, but I feel it's really lacking focus on user experience. About e2e encryption, it's planned for Q4 2019, but collaborative encryption is really not an easy stuff. "Cryptography is a serious matter".

The collaborative encryption is exactly what is solved in CryptPad.fr and at the core of the storage model. This is actually key because it's not the only problem you will get once you try to add encryption. You'll realize everything needs to be rebuild with no database on the server side, otherwise you will get only partial encryption. Encryption needs to be built in first and then the rest should be added.

Concerning user experience, do not confuse design and user experience. Yes some design is needed to improve cryptPad, but the user experience starts with making it super easy to start to share something. In the case of bloom you first needed to register which is not needed on cryptpad to start working collaboratively.

Note that cryptPad storage is a bit like S3 but with e2e encryption and collaborative documents built in.. so you could build your UI on top of it, but e2e encryption means everything needs to be done from the client side, not from the server side.

There is also a roadmap. I will contact you. We can meet. We are next to Beaubourg.

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by z0mbie42 »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #171

>> The problem is that today these data, produced by everyone, become the property of big companies (the giants of tech), and are used among other things to destabilize our political organizations. >> Having these data in open access would increase the speed and quality of innovation in all areas. The phrase "these data, produced by everyone" suggests that this is about personal data, like the data that is used by la…

Hi, Thank you about your feedback.

My though were more data like those produced by electric cars, Google maps users, smart wearable, IOT... Anonymized data, which are useful to make the world progress.

Privacy is our core value and one of our selling point. We will never sacrifice it for some quick buck by selling or mining private data.

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by paxys »

z0mbie42 wrote: post #109
paxys wrote: post #69

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In case the product gets popular you are 100% getting a copyright notice from Google, so may as well change it now rather than after the brand is established

On the other hand there is absolutely no copyright infringement, it's only the result of following material design guidelines.

Material design guidelines do not allow you to use or edit Google's logos

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by dancedar »

dancedar wrote: post #220
z0mbie42 wrote: post #203

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Resource were not size for the load. I'll increase resources :)

Thanks! It is completed. But I can't do anything, clicking it does nothing, I cant see any files in the folder of the torrent. Long press does nothing. No documentation, help pages empty.

Ok, so the bitflow interface does nothing once it's downloaded,you have to go to drive. Best make this clear

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

z0mbie42 wrote: post #222
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #171

>> The problem is that today these data, produced by everyone, become the property of big companies (the giants of tech), and are used among other things to destabilize our political organizations. >> Having these data in open access would increase the speed and quality of innovation in all areas. The phrase "these data, produced by everyone" suggests that this is about personal data, like the data that is used by la…

Hi, Thank you about your feedback. My though were more data like those produced by electric cars, Google maps users, smart wearable, IOT... Anonymized data, which are useful to make the world progress. Privacy is our core value and one of our selling point. We will never sacrifice it for some quick buck by selling or mining private data.

But the kind of data you are talking about in this comment - wearable device data, IOT data, map use data, etc, is exactly the kind of data that risks compromising the user's privacy, and worse.

Anonymising the data is hardly sufficient to ensure that the user is protected. The data you're talking about is data that relates to peoples' everyday activities: driving, moving about, using home appliances and personal devices, etc. They can be used to model a user's characteristics, and then the model can be used to make decisions that affect the user intimately, such as the costs of medical insurance, say, or employment offers and so on. And I do mean that all this can affect the user whose data is used _even though the data is anonymised_.

I appreciate your assurances that you will never sacrifice privacy, but how will that be possible if all the users' data is free to access?

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by JoeSchr »

z0mbie42 wrote: post #4
dougk16 wrote: post #3

Wow, ambitious! Your sheer nerve is enough to click on the link and check it out. :) As a potential early adopter that has seen countless would-be world-changing technology efforts come and go, in order to personally get me on the bandwagon, it would help to know a few things that didn't stand out to me at first, even after visiting the https://bloom.sh website. (1) When I think Google I think "search" first and fore…

Hi, Thank you very much for these encouraging words! (1) You are totally right, I plan to use this wording only to target the 'geeks' (those who may be early adopters, contributors), those who see Google more like a very innovative tech giant rather than just a search engine (2) As written at the bottom of the article (yes I acknowledge it's very very long) the master plan is as follow: 1. Build free software and cha…

Hi,

great project. But one question, why would you link paul grahams article and then use Rust and not Lisp? I failed to see the connection there, but it made me really interested in trying to learn more about Lips (and maybe Rust)

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by pndy »

thepra wrote: post #225

First mistake in the account creation of the bloom app, assuming all people|cultures have a surname...

It seems that's also impossible to register an account without revealing name and last name. I'd like to use services anonymously as is only possible.

ToS gives me very restrictive vibes - it feels like it's oriented to work for provider and not users.

Re: Show HN: Bloom – A free and open source 'Google'

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Post by urbanslug »

z0mbie42 wrote: post #42
urbanslug wrote: post #29

I wonder whether this is how it was when RMS had the userland and all he needed was someone with a Kernel.

Actually, we have a kernel: https://gitlab.com/bloom42/bloom/tree/master/server/kernel Joking aside, as you can read in the blog post I'm really eager that people join the project and contribute.

:D

Sadly my time is like all taken up and Rust skills are zero but I'd love to contribute to such a cause for sure.

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