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Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
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Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
> how many people who, a few years ago, believed everything the media said about say the pandemic Are you sure they're the same people and do you have examples of misinformation these people believed 6 years ago?
If you NOW believe that the media is corrupt and full of lies, but also believe that 6 years ago they were 100% truthful, you're being intellectually stunted. If you believed all the media lies during Covid, but NOW you see that the media is lying about the Middle East, you should have the intellectual honesty to at least earnestly consider if you were duped back then. Because that's much more likely than the entire…
So "No" then?
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#213Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you NOW believe that the media is corrupt and full of lies, but also believe that 6 years ago they were 100% truthful, you're being intellectually stunted. If you believed all the media lies during Covid, but NOW you see that the media is lying about the Middle East, you should have the intellectual honesty to at least earnestly consider if you were duped back then. Because that's much more likely than the entire…
So "No" then?
Oh don't be so obtuse. We're not going to get into a big long debate about the particulars -- it's been done a million times, you can search the details if you actually care. But you're only asking in an attempt to deflect the topic away from the reality staring you right in your face, if you had the courage to admit it.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
The fleet serving Iran and Russia does not use transponders. It's a large fleet. Ships without transponders are just a fact of life in shipping.
Sure, but for the purpose of this discussion, those ships don't matter. What matters is what the ships NOT belonging to Iran's friends do.
Technically all ships crossing the strait matter as their cargos end up being bought, sanctioned or not, Iran-friendly or not; they wouldn't have crossed otherwise. If we're talking about avoiding a global recession and worst case famine in some parts of the world, the oil and gas must start moving regardless of who is the shipowner.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does it really need to be said that military ships are fair game?
Are (alleged) drug smugglers not engaged in any kind of active combat "military ships"?
Yes. You're technically right, of course, in theory only by the government whose flag they bear. And that flag is not the US flag. All I can say, it is not a matter of serious disagreement that Venezuela's government was running a drug cartel. That is perhaps not why Trump cares, but it is true. So either that was going to happen or it was just going to continue ...
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you are really of that opinion, does that include not accepting warcrimes committed by the US or Iran? Or Israel (and many other nations, including all arab countries, at least half of Africa, and more) You see, they have not ratified or withdrawn from the Rome treaty, which is the only UN treaty that talks about war crimes. What I'm saying, if countries just get to opt out of treaties, where that affects a great…
Absolutely. If your country didn't sign up to the law of war crimes, you don't have to follow it. That's how sovereignty works. It doesn't mean they're not bad for doing bad things but it does mean you can't defer to the law to judge them as the parent did. War crimes is a funny example to choose. It just happens that post WWII, the west has been impermeable with its expensive high-tech militaries so it could comfort…
There is no responding to this. If war crimes are just fine and peachy, as long as it's your favorite party committing them ... well I hope you're not too attached to your children. I am to mine.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#217According to the Financial Times (1), the straight is "open" but Iran is extorting fees for passing ships. > "Iran will demand that shipping companies pay tolls in cryptocurrency for oil tankers passing through the Strait of Hormuz, as it seeks to retain control over passage through the key waterway during the two-week ceasefire." If they really will start doing so for all shipping, that would be odd since the straig…
> Even so, the UNCLOS convention (2) requires free transit:
Neither Israel nor the US have signed/ratified the UNCLOS. So Iran has no incentive to abide by it.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#218This site has a lot of detailed data -- not sure what their sources are: https://insights.windward.ai
Number of ship crossings is definitely trending upward as of today.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
So "No" then?
Oh don't be so obtuse. We're not going to get into a big long debate about the particulars -- it's been done a million times, you can search the details if you actually care. But you're only asking in an attempt to deflect the topic away from the reality staring you right in your face, if you had the courage to admit it.
I really can't search the particulars if you're not saying anything specific.
Re: Show HN: Is Hormuz open yet?
#220I speculated over a month ago that the only way to get the oil flowing again is to build a trucking road thru the desert. Ask China to help in exchange for cheap oil. If they start now, they could have a rough path by end of the month. Once the road is built, then you lay new pipeline. Say 3-4 years to do everything. Once Hormuz is bypassed, Iran has lost all leverage.