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Anyone is free to replace the cat girl with an actual cat or a vintage computer logo or whatnot anyway. My issue is that it blocks away people using browsers without javascript.

How can one do this? Did not find it in the docs

It’s a feature in the paid version, or I guess you could recompile it if you didn’t want to pay (but my guess is if you want to change the logo you can probably pay).

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That’s so many scrapers. There must be a ton of companies with very large document collections at this point, and it really sucks that they don’t at least do us the courtesy of indexing them and making them available for keyword search, but instead only do AI. It’s kind of crazy how much scraping goes on and how little search engine development goes on. I guess search engines aren’t fashionable. Reminds me of this ar…

Or some anti-ddos/bot companies using ultra cheap scraping services to annoy you enough to get you into their "free" anti bot protection, so they can charge the few real ai scrapers for access to your site.

Is there any evidence that this has actually happened?

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

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I was told by the admin of one forum site I use that the vast majority of the AI scraping traffic is Chinese at this point. Not hidden or proxied, but straight from China. Can anyone else confirm this? Anyway, if it is true, and assuming a forum with minimal genuine Chinese traffic, might a simple approach that injects the porn links only into IP's accessing from China work?

Mostly yes. One of my low-traffic, niche website used to serve 3k true users per month mainly from the US and East EU. Now China alone is 500k users, were each session last no more than a few seconds [1].

[1]: https://ibb.co/20QD6Lnk

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#215

Let's imagine I have a blog and put something along these lines somewhere on every page: "This content is provided free of charge for humans to experience. It may also be automatically accessed for search indexing and archival purposes. For licensing information for other uses, contact the author." If I then get hit by a rude AI scraper, what chances would I have to sue the hell out of them in EU courts for copyright…

If the scraper is based (Or has meaningful assets) in the EU, then your chances are good. If they do not, then the lawsuit would be meaningless.

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

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So maybe there are more people who like the “anime catgirl” than there are who think it’s weird

*anime jackalgirl ;-) Quite possibly. Or, in my case, I think it's more quirky and fun than weird. It's non-zero amounts of weird, sure, but far below my threshold of troublesome. I probably wouldn't put my business behind it. I'm A-OK with using it on personal and hobby projects. Frankly, anyone so delicate that they freak out at the utterly anodyne imagery is someone I don't want to deal with in my personal time. I…

The Digital Research Alliance of Canada (the main organization unifying and handling all the main HPC compute clusters in Canada) now uses Anubis for their wiki. Granted this is not a business, but still!

https://docs.alliancecan.ca/wiki/Technical_documentation

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

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If the LLMs are the "new Google" one solution would be for them to pay you when scraping your content, so you both have an incentive, you're more willing to be scraped and they'll try to not abuse you because it will cost them at every visit. If your content is valuable and requested on prompts they will scrape you more and so on. I can't see other solutions honestly. For now they decided to go full evil and abuse ev…

No disrespect to op, but I'm baffled as to how people keep coming up with ideas like this as if they are viable. Google is never ever ever ever going to "pay to scrape." I'm genuinely baffled as to how people think it would possibly come to this.

presearch does. Anyone had experience with them?

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

#218

This is a cute idea, but I wonder what is the sustainable solution to this emerging fundamental problem: As content publishers, we want our content to be accessible to everyone, and we're even willing to pay for server costs relative to our intended audience -- but a new outsized flood of scrapers was not part of the cost calculation, and that is messing up the plan. It seems all options have major trade-offs. We can…

If the LLMs are the "new Google" one solution would be for them to pay you when scraping your content, so you both have an incentive, you're more willing to be scraped and they'll try to not abuse you because it will cost them at every visit. If your content is valuable and requested on prompts they will scrape you more and so on. I can't see other solutions honestly. For now they decided to go full evil and abuse ev…

The only way that would work is if they were legally required to. And even then, it probably wouldn’t work unless failure to comply was a criminal offense. You know what? Even then it still might not work.

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

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- the frontend has a decryption module that ll show users what they want to see, - the backend has an encryption module. - The bots and crawlers will see the encrypted text - Can someone who peeks deeply inside the client side code decrypt it? YES - Will 99% of the scrapers bother doing this? NO - The key can be anything, it could be a per session key agreed upon between the client and the server, a csrf token, or ev…

Ehm what would stop ai scrapers from using a browser like a normal user would? Google bot already does, it can execute js and can read spa client side generated content, so it proves can be done at scale, and I'm pretty sure some ai scrapers already do

If you decrypt the content on the client side using an expensive decryption algorithm the scraper needs to spend the computing resource to decrypt.

Re: Show HN: Stop AI scrapers from hammering your self-hosted blog (using porn)

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Why would I need a dependency for this. I'm being serious. The idea is one thing but why a dependency on react. I say this as someone who uses react. Why not just a paragraph long blog post about the use of porn links and perhaps a small snippet on how to insert one with plain HTML.
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