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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Clamping down on freedoms is not conservative policy. Crap like Communications Act 2003 and Ofcom has been Labour policy for decades.

Here's the Conservative policy for the Online Safety Act 2023, during the Sunak government: * https://legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/notes/division/3/in... Here's the Conservative white paper on Online Harms from 2019, during the May government: * https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/online-harms-whi...

Lets not forget the "Snoopers Charter" the party was so proud of.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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In UK you get arrested for a mere tweet if it hurts anyone's feelings and it's called democracy. Unbelievable. Btw UK surpassed Russia in these kinda arrests

OP's comment is only slightly misleading. Per the myth detector [1]:

".... similar comparisons, stating that 3,300 people were arrested in the UK while only 400 in Russia, have circulated on social media for years. The original source of this claim is Konstantin Kisin, a Russia-born, half-British comedian, writer, and podcast co-host. His interview, where he makes this comparison [at 26:26], was recorded in 2019, based on data from 2016-2017.

For years, social media users have relied on Kisin’s statements to compare Russia and the UK. Many refer to data from the human rights group Agora, which reported that 411 people faced prosecution in Russia in 2017 for social media activity. In the majority of cases, media users were accused of [....] what authorities consider provocative content. On the other hand, UK comparisons are often based on a 2017 article in The Times, which cited 2016 data showing that over 3,300 people were arrested or questioned under Section 127 of the Communications Act. However, the same article notes that in half of these cases, investigations were dropped before prosecution. Additionally, Section 127 is not limited to social media, and it also applies to emails and other forms of electronic communication. Moreover, the Russian figure represents prosecutions, while the UK figure represents arrests, making the comparison inappropriate for many reasons. For example, the content of the clauses differs: in the UK, they are applied to a broader range of cases, while the data from Russia reflects arrests for the activity on social media. Additionally, the analysis of cases shows the difference between the two countries in the application of the laws. In Russia, many citizens and journalists have been arrested for expressing critical opinions or posting government-opposed views on social media. It is also worth noting that in the UK, cases brought under Section 127 that result in citizens being subjected to community service or fines are often debated."

The article I've cited mainly discusses a comparison by Guri Sultanishvili which is harder to justify, but Konstantin Kisin's comments have been more widely referenced in the public debate.

[1] https://mythdetector.com/en/free-expression-on-the-internet/

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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They promised a policy (Brexit) in a form that would replace immigration from European countries with immigration from non-white countries. In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration. They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration: - 50,000 extra nurses (including foreign recruitment) - A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration Source:…

> They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration > A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration Firstly, I don't think they actually introduced one of those, did they? And secondly, how is that guaranteed to increase immigration? The UK media and some of politicians at the time were all talking about an Australian-style points system. As someone pretty…

> Firstly, I don't think they actually introduced one of those, did they?

Boris introduced 2 million (legal) immigrants in the first (unaffected) year we "took back control" of the borders under the new system rolled out in 2020

The UK's new points-based immigration system - https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-...

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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I think it's fun when the elected government doesn't do what the people who elected them want. Like a middle finger to democracy.

UK is a monarchy. More so now than ever before. They all just chasing their peerages.

I think the whole of the 1800s would disagree with you.

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MPs will be immediately trying to hang the civil service for telling them this was a good idea. Don't expect legal action. Do expect buck passing.

I wish there was a modern day version of "Yes, [Prime] Minister" for this kind of stuff. It's like the episodes could write themselves by the week.

"The Thick Of It", but even that's quite old now.

Political satire is kind of dead in an age of unironic stupidity.

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Wtf are you talking about? The Conservatives promised to reduce immigration in 2019. Instead they increased it to its highest ever levels by far, hence why they got thrown out of office. Have you ever met or spoken to a Conservative voter in your entire life?

They promised a policy (Brexit) in a form that would replace immigration from European countries with immigration from non-white countries. In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration. They promised 2 things that are guaranteed to increase immigration: - 50,000 extra nurses (including foreign recruitment) - A points-based system, you can find articles talking about how this increases immigration Source:…

> In fact, the Tories did NOT promise to reduce immigration.

In fact they did. They promised to reduce immigration. They did the opposite of what you just said.

Their 2019 manifesto said "There will be fewer lower-skilled migrants and overall numbers will come down."

Source: PDF linked on https://conservativehome.com/2019/12/06/read-the-conservativ...

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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it's literally just the MPs name. It's a fake DoB (because their DoB's aren't public knowledge anymore) all the numbers and such are nonsense, the images wouldn't fool a human for one second. The AI tools don't let you generate an ID for any real human being (because that sounds like all sorts of fraud) so you can't upload a picture of the MP or anything like that - so I just let the model fill in whatever face it th…

I'm a bit out of the loop and not familiar with the whole thing. Do you just submit a plausibly real name and any DOB that is older than 18 and a picture? Does the thing crosscheck the name + dob with a demographic database (does UK has any)?

The Online Safety Act is completely stupid - it just requires "age verification". Various sites have outsourced this to various providers, most of which are American. The age verifiers in turn just look at the image, generally algorithmically without human intervention, and go "seems legit". There is no single national UK ID database that could be used for this purpose - everything is either partial, doesn't include photos (e.g. electoral roll), or isn't public (passport DB).

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As a Canadian I was lost and confused when visiting the States (in the before time) and a gas pump asked for my zip code. So I put in the one and only zip code I know. I bet you can guess.

Did it work?

It probably did. I was in the us this summer and was similarly confused that the pump wanted a us zip code for a foreign card. I input the zip for the address i was staying at and it worked...

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I mean, the last 15 years were mostly Tories and the public kept voting them in. I’m glad I’m not a politician because I have no sympathy for Brexit voters who voted Tory in 2019, claim “I know what a voted for,” and now complain about how much poorer and full of immigrants the country now is. It was all there in the 2019 Conservative manifesto they voted for!

Wtf are you talking about? The Conservatives promised to reduce immigration in 2019. Instead they increased it to its highest ever levels by far, hence why they got thrown out of office. Have you ever met or spoken to a Conservative voter in your entire life?

There were also the matters of Johnson throwing a Covid party, Truss tanking the economy within a few weeks of taking office, and Sunak being useless and generally taking the hit for a flacid economy.
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