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Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by yellowapple »

owenversteeg wrote: post #200

First of all, what is that shiny gold motherboard [0] on the front page? Secondly, I recommend that you add Amazon reviews as another feature - just like price and performance. Also, I think you should add in some kind of metric for mice and keyboards - # of buttons, DPI, activation weight, etc. Finally, I really like the UI of your site. Although it may not be as feature-rich as some competitors, it seems many HNers…

> First of all, what is that shiny gold motherboard [0] on the front page?

It's the ASUS Z87 Deluxe (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87DELUXE/)

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by smrtinsert »

gr3yh47 wrote: post #116
jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

www.logicalincrements.com presents similar info in IMO a better format as well.

Agreed. For the HN audience I would expect something like li, but with more interactivity.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by ZoFreX »

yaeger wrote: post #189
jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

Speaking of compatibility: Does nobody care to check the mainboards support site for compatibility lists? This one, for example: http://uk.pangoly.com/en/build/configure/pro When you select the asrock mainboard, you are presented with these three choices of RAM: http://uk.pangoly.com/en/review/corsair-vengeance-16gb-2x8gb... http://uk.pangoly.com/en/review/patriot-viper-3-16gb-2x8gb-2... http://uk.pangoly.com/en/revi…

In practice, just because RAM doesn't show on the list of compatible modules in the motherboard manual doesn't mean it won't work. We're thankfully past the Athlon XP days! I've generally had luck just making sure all the specs match.

Edit: Although, if RAM is listed on the Pangoly site that is in the approved list, that should be indicated somehow, as it's guaranteed to be compatible.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by dnm »

adl wrote: post #63
drewg123 wrote: post #36

When I build a PC, the number one feature I want is ECC memory. It can be tricky to find a non-server configuration that supports it (you historically need a "good" bios that is smart enough to enable it for AMD, and you typically need a Xeon flavor CPU + workstation level board for Intel; caveat, it has been 2.5 years since my last build). I was hoping that this tool might make finding non-server parts that support…

I'm genuinely curious, why is it your number one feature? I know that ECC provides error correction, but aside from server use, is it really that critical?

This is an old page, but convinced me years ago to go with ECC memory whenever I build a new machine.

http://cr.yp.to/hardware/ecc.html

He hasn't updated is build in a while, though. http://cr.yp.to/hardware/build-20090123.html

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by ZoFreX »

chc wrote: post #117
jfb wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are more axes to gaming quality than simply polygon performance. You have to be specific about what is superior.

I really can't name any technological aspect in which consoles are more powerful than a PC. That's kind of the point I was driving at.

More powerful? No. But they are still better in some ways:

* No DRM. I have been burnt several times by PC games on this front.

* No viruses or malware to worry about

* Far fewer updates to install and in general less maintenance

* Warranty - if I build a PC myself and it breaks, I need to fix it (I recognise that for more technical users and/or people with more time, it's a plus that you can fix a PC yourself - but that isn't everyone)

* Compatibility. It's hardly rare to run into issues if you try to play a PC game on launch date, and often graphics card driver updates fix some games and break others.

* Noise and size (it's hard to make a small quiet and powerful PC on a budget)

* Peripherals - there is a standardized set that "just works" for a console. On the PC, maybe half of my Steam library supports my controller out of the box.

And one non-technical aspect which isn't a concern for everyone, but is for many:

* My friends are all on [XBox Live|PSN] and I want to play with them

My stance? I game on PC, PS3, PS2, Xbox 360, Wii, 3DS, iPad, and occasionally on an Android phone. They're all great in their own way. I wouldn't say any of them was better than all of the others on all axes I care about - but if pushed to have just one, I would pick the PC.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by ZoFreX »

groovy2shoes wrote: post #130
sthatipamala wrote: post #75

I like how polished this site is. It would be a good companion to this parts recommendation guide: http://www.logicalincrements.com/ However, I disagree that a "Pro" build is necessary for software development, as suggested by the description. I've gotten by writing software on a netbook.

Likewise, I've gotten by writing software with a pen and paper. There's an unfortunate consequence of the tendency for developers to have "Pro" hardware: their software often doesn't get tested on older hardware. Some examples: About 8 years ago, I tried to install a KDE-based Linux distribution on a PC that was then only 2 years old. The screen resolution defaulted to 800x600. I opened the settings panel to try and…

I find the biggest problem is web applications. Google+ and Facebook are abysmally slow for me, even though I am on a very powerful machine. I shudder to think what they are like on something even a couple of years old.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by Domenic_S »

anonbanker wrote: post #180
jsmthrowaway wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said "competitive." The Ouya is dead.

[citation needed]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/03/07/hit-kickstar...

http://www.reddit.com/r/ouya/comments/2785gs/ouya_deaddying/

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by owenversteeg »

yellowapple wrote: post #201
owenversteeg wrote: post #200

First of all, what is that shiny gold motherboard [0] on the front page? Secondly, I recommend that you add Amazon reviews as another feature - just like price and performance. Also, I think you should add in some kind of metric for mice and keyboards - # of buttons, DPI, activation weight, etc. Finally, I really like the UI of your site. Although it may not be as feature-rich as some competitors, it seems many HNers…

> First of all, what is that shiny gold motherboard [0] on the front page? It's the ASUS Z87 Deluxe ( http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87DELUXE/ )

THANK YOU! That was driving me insane.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by aidenn0 »

gr3yh47 wrote: post #116
jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

www.logicalincrements.com presents similar info in IMO a better format as well.

That's a really good site. I tend to build workstations these days, but have several friends asking me for gaming build advice; I can point them there.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by ejjpi »

tobz wrote: post #198
ejjpi wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your constructive feedback. We are still under active development and we are rolling out new features every week. Although analogy with PCPartPicker was inevitable, I'd like to say we're not aiming on being its clone, we're not providing price comparison and they are already doing a great job providing extensive compatibility checks so there's no point wasting time reproducing what is already available. Pa…

So what benefit does your site provide? It sounds like all you really have is preconfigured builds in different levels of power - a sort of.. curated "best computer for $X" list.

Single product pros & cons, ratings, suggested builds for the component. Build guidelines, build performance index and power consumption, realtime best builds. Localized and multi currency. User friendly and beautifully designed, browsable with any device. And much more... As you probably are an expert user you most likely don't care about any of all those features because you already know what do you need and where to find it. As a matter of fact, I'm sure you also don't care that Facebook is localized in 97 languages, but trust me, a few people around the world do. I know missing features like advanced filtering might be frustrating for those who need them right now, but we're working hard trying to please everybody's needs and provide a better service!
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