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Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by maratc »

reaperman wrote: post #149
cdjk wrote: post #28

This is awesome. I had the same feeling I had when I first played GeoGuessr. It's one of the first times I've seen what is obviously AI-generated video used in a super compelling way. I want to keep playing. A few super nitpicky comments: - I dropped my pin for "Seward's Folly" on Alaska. The videos were clear enough that I knew that's what it was, which made me excited. But then it said it happened in Washington, DC…

The Seward's Folly had an additional issue besides the fact that some of the locations were in DC and others were in Alaska: The video of the signing in the White House shows Rutherford B. Hayes, not Andrew Johnson. Andrew Johnson was president in 1867, not Rutherford B. Hayes. Your location estimate was off because you matched the 3-out-of-4 of videos showing Alaska / Russian Army / Tligits. My time estimate was off…

The internal struggle of this project is that it's most likely to attract people interested in history, and these are exactly the people who are most likely to spot inconsistencies and dislike the experience.

Having said that, it's a first occurrence when I see AI-generated videos that provide something of a value.

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by skhr0680 »

0xcb0 wrote: post #197

Nice game!! Well done I think. And another nice example of how AI and generative art can help learn in an interactive way. Event though some pictures are missleading. I guessed the one was the end of rome while it was istanbul. But the pictures looked nothing like ottoman architecture and only like roman one. But overall very nice idea!!

> Ottoman architecture

Constantinople wasn't captured by the Ottomans until almost 1,000 years after the events depicted in the quiz

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by mywittyname »

samplank2 wrote: post #179
bucketsofthundr wrote: post #178

Love the game but I second improving the scoring mechanics. I was 40 years off and less than 5km from the place and "only" got 7829. Assuming 99% accuracy for location, and based on some back-of-the-napkin math, that means you have to be within 70.7 years of the actual event to register any points for guessing the correct time. I think If you're within 100 years of the event you should get points. I think ideally it…

Glad you liked it, thanks for playing! Fair point on the scoring, seems like a lot of people feel that way. Right now, half your points come from distance in km, and half come from distance in years. So you probably got 5000 points for location, and lost points on the year. But it's probably a bit too harsh right now. And thanks for pointing out the Vatican City nit.

Location accuracy probably should be sinusoidal where the score is not really effected if the pointer is within ~10-20km of the event.

For dates, I think it needs to take into account how far back something occurred, with recent history being +/-5 years, early modern being +/- 50 years, and ancient history being +/-500 years. That's closer to the resolution we think of events in (decades, centuries, millennia). You could probably even update the UI to have these graduations.

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by h2zizzle »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #150
slg wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Still more accurate most of the time than a lot of historical video games at least. This game is much closer to Trivial Pursuit than it is Assassin's Creed. The importance of accuracy depends on the type of game and when the point of the game is specifically testing the player's knowledge, a lack of accuracy is game-breaking.

And where the creators are on the spectrum between historical accuracy vs politics vs target audience; Asscreed is one that tries to balance it, sometimes it works, their most recent example has had major criticisms. Kingdom Come focuses on historical accuracy but since they found no records of e.g. Black people in medieval Bohemia they didn't include them in the first game, which did trigger some criticism - the gam…

The most recent example has had "major criticisms" because it centers a historical figure who happens to be black. (There was almost zero bellyaching about accuracy when the same figure showed up as a boss/side character in more fantastical takes on medieval Japan, including one in which he sics a ghost Atlas Bear on the PC.) There is a kernal of virtue wrt the issue of representation and appropriation, but most of the raging is driven by racism.

I do want to lend support to the idea that he series tries to balance accuracy with its gameplay/narrative foci, though. IIUC, they get a lot of details that Hollywood movies and even documentaries get wrong (by virtue of digital production). Origins and Odyssey included modes that allowed player to move through the world as if it were a living museum, reading passages about people and places as they were encountered.

Overall, it's nice when artists dealing with historical subjects understand that they're presenting imperfect models of the past, and state so, so that viewers can consider what might be accurate and what might not be.

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by handpanda »

very fun!

Two small comments - if I know the precise year it is kinda hard to seek, especially at the ends of the scale. Maybe if you could hold the button to go faster?

And the text overlay on the map at the end mostly prevents me scrolling it (and seeing where the correct place was)

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by hot_gril »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #150
slg wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Still more accurate most of the time than a lot of historical video games at least. This game is much closer to Trivial Pursuit than it is Assassin's Creed. The importance of accuracy depends on the type of game and when the point of the game is specifically testing the player's knowledge, a lack of accuracy is game-breaking.

And where the creators are on the spectrum between historical accuracy vs politics vs target audience; Asscreed is one that tries to balance it, sometimes it works, their most recent example has had major criticisms. Kingdom Come focuses on historical accuracy but since they found no records of e.g. Black people in medieval Bohemia they didn't include them in the first game, which did trigger some criticism - the gam…

I haven't heard of this, was mainly thinking about how Rome Total War (the original at least) misrepresented most factions and units in it, especially the Egyptians. There wasn't even an enjoyable reason for it.

Re: Show HN: Time Portal – Get dropped into history, guess where you landed

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Post by pona-a »

I remember when the first Stable Diffusion models came out, one of their model cards, in the "safety" section, mentioned using the model to generate depictions of historical events. At that time, I thought that warning was about as useful as "do not use to dry pets" on a microwave.
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