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Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
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Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the real question is this: Is chatgpt "just copying" the content in its training set? What constitutes plagerism, exactly? If ChatGPT is reproducing content verbatim from its training set, then I think the claim its violating copyright holds a lot of water. (And I think there was a NYT lawsuit claiming such - and I wish them well). But if chatgpt learns from 100 recipes for bechamel sauce, and synthesizes the…
At a minimum it's a big legal gray area. Writing a book review isn't illegal and requires no financial engagement with the publisher, but I can't actually find if SparkNotes or CliffNotes have to pay royalties. Those would be a pretty good parallel in my mind, they are doing more than a quick summary or review and are effectively compressing the content. It feels wrong to me but that says nothing of the laws we curre…
Yeah, I feel the same re: NY Times. But thats because (iirc) the model was reproducing large parts of their articles word-for-word.
But so long as chatgpt doesn't reproduce any of its sources word for word, I don't think its a problem. Especially since cookbooks have been doing the same thing for centuries.
At least, I think that's where I would draw the line. But I agree - we're in very new territory. Who knows what a judge will think.
Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Beyond that, maybe we should bring back Gopher. Pictures online really don't seem to be worth 1000 words these days.
Gopher never went away, it's still there if you want it.
Technically, yes, but it's no longer where most organizations index relevant information.
Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#204Makes me think of bullshit.js bookmarklet
Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#205I feel like this title is misleading, all this does is make an HTTP request to the site and let an LLM summarize its content. It does not just "cut the crap", it cuts everything and boils it down to AI slop. Point it towards a high quality scientific article, and you'll see that it doesn't just cut "crap", but any information that might be valuable. I get that this can be useful for some sites, I've used Kagi Summari…
Highly unethical in my opinion to not disclose the tool is summarizing via an LLM. As a matter of fact, in the right circumstances it may not only fail to do what the title says, but do the opposite - add hallucinations or other AI generated garbage!
fighting AI slop with more AI slop, it just keeps getting more ridiculous in tech world.
Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, that's fair to some extent. But on the other hand you could have just purchased any cookbook that covers the basics, instead of taking all this web-scaped content without attribution or compensation. I mean, look, I totally get it and I'm certainly guilty of this too - but let's not pretend that we're not basically stealing other people's content here. Much of the time those people running those recipe websit…
There are interesting parallels between LLMs and downloading pirated movies/shows. In the first case its a trillion dollar business based on scraping the entire internet and sharing out a lossy, compressed version of the content with no attribution or financial contributions to the original creator. In the second case its a shady, technically illegal practice of scraping DVDs or online video streams and sharing a los…
> Maybe Napster just needed VC backing to make it seem legit.
That's more or less what took Uber from criminal enterprise to mainstream.
Re: Show HN: Cut the crap – remove AI bullshit from websites
#207Good job. It seems I had similar idea with bullshitremover.com
It was even listed here previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41545335
I have to say that I prefer your design
May I ask what are your plans for the future of this project? Do you plan to monetize it?