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Re: Show HN: Tock, a Time Tracking Tool by 18F

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Time tracking is one of those things that I see constantly being reinvented. Whether it's spreadsheets that get emailed, completely custom solutions, or one of the numerous services available, few of them actually provide anything new. What I want is a product that tracks my time for me. WakaTime is probably the closest I've seen. If only it worked outside of my text editor and automatically submitted my timesheets f…

> Time tracking is one of those things that I see constantly being reinvented. Whether it's spreadsheets that get emailed, completely custom solutions, or one of the numerous services available, few of them actually provide anything new. I think that's because nobody provides enough hooks in enough different places to make something work for everyone. I'd call it the SAP problem. First you spend $3mm buying it and th…

I would argue it's because of the confluence of a few factors:

* It's a problem lots of programmers have (programmers always solve problems they themselves have first) * It's a problem that seems like it should be easy to solve * It's a problem that doesn't require a large team to bootstrap an MVP

So you get a lot of "version 0.1" type solutions, as people set own to scratch their own personal itches. But then once version 0.1 is out the door they start looking at other peoples' itches, discover that there's a bazillion little wrinkles and corner cases that make it hard to evolve a specialized tool into a more general-purpose one-size-fits-all-one, so they just settle for leaving their own tool as it is rather than trying to address all those corner cases to get it to a "version 1.0" level.

Re: Show HN: Tock, a Time Tracking Tool by 18F

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Time tracking is one of those things that I see constantly being reinvented. Whether it's spreadsheets that get emailed, completely custom solutions, or one of the numerous services available, few of them actually provide anything new. What I want is a product that tracks my time for me. WakaTime is probably the closest I've seen. If only it worked outside of my text editor and automatically submitted my timesheets f…

We looked at doing things like logging git commit frequency to try and provide realistic estimates to users of their time that they could then confirm or alter. Realistically, with the diversity of talent we have here (both technical and non-technical) and the time it would take to do well, it didn't really seem too practical. It would be awesome if WakaTime and others provided some way of interfacing with an API, so…

Yeah, I built (and later shut down) didlog http://www.didlog.com/ a while ago which I had hoped would eventually turn into something like this. Track code commits, calendar events, emails, files changing, etc to try to put together a map of everything you're working on.

I knew I'd be biting off more than I could chew if I tried to tackle time tracking from the start so I was hoping I could build something useful before moving into that area. Turns out, I couldn't (given my limited time and resources).

Re: Show HN: Tock, a Time Tracking Tool by 18F

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Time tracking is one of those things that I see constantly being reinvented. Whether it's spreadsheets that get emailed, completely custom solutions, or one of the numerous services available, few of them actually provide anything new. I think that's because nobody provides enough hooks in enough different places to make something work for everyone. I'd call it the SAP problem. First you spend $3mm buying it and th…

I would argue it's because of the confluence of a few factors: * It's a problem lots of programmers have (programmers always solve problems they themselves have first) * It's a problem that seems like it should be easy to solve * It's a problem that doesn't require a large team to bootstrap an MVP So you get a lot of "version 0.1" type solutions, as people set own to scratch their own personal itches. But then once v…

I think we've agreed with one another, though perhaps I didn't word my version of it quite right the first time.

Re: Show HN: Tock, a Time Tracking Tool by 18F

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Love the callout to the Chosen.js library...one of those fantastic plug-and-play interface libraries that makes it so less painful to add a nearly essential feature to forms/data-selection. edit: Added clickable link to chosen.js homepage http://harvesthq.github.io/chosen/

Doesn't work on mobile?

Re: Show HN: Tock, a Time Tracking Tool by 18F

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Anyone got any already written time tracking software that they like (on github or not)?

I wrote mine, but I track tasks and milestones rather than time spent.

Time tracking makes sense for freelancers and other people who bill by the hour but personally I tried rescuetime & co. and I do not see the point in knowing how long I was on facebook or how long I spent editing a particular file.

Milestones require manual input but I find that information much more relevant.

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