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Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by Nicholas_C » Fri, May 22, 2015, 2:50 PM UTC

dorfsmay wrote: post #18

Are recruiters that big of an issue for you guys? I do not get that many emails/contacts from recruiters, and I find a quick polite email exchange or one phone call allows to quickly clarify the situation and we're done. I actually welcome recruiters contacting me, it keeps me in the loop of what's going, market rate etc... and sometime help me finding new gigs. EDIT: It seems that where you are located makes a big d…

I like recruiters but I don't like the BS games. I think OPs creation is designed to cut through the BS and avoid wasting time. It really sucks to hear about a cool opportunity and set up a call to find out the pay is too low, the opportunity is at an undesirable company, or it simply isn't exactly what you were looking for. And all that happens because they try to withhold information until they get you on the phone and apply their sales tactics. OPs creation is an attempt to figure most of this out and weed out the recruiters that are just spamming and trying to get a warm body in a seat.

I'm not an engineer/developer but this happens in my area as well.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by kenrikm » Fri, May 22, 2015, 2:54 PM UTC

dorfsmay wrote: post #18

Are recruiters that big of an issue for you guys? I do not get that many emails/contacts from recruiters, and I find a quick polite email exchange or one phone call allows to quickly clarify the situation and we're done. I actually welcome recruiters contacting me, it keeps me in the loop of what's going, market rate etc... and sometime help me finding new gigs. EDIT: It seems that where you are located makes a big d…

99% is useless spam. I usually reply back with a copy/paste filling in blanks with their name to please give me more specific info about the position and salary range. Even that is too much to ask and they don't usually reply with the info.

I mean.. that's what they are doing, might as well do the same.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by calcsam » Fri, May 22, 2015, 2:55 PM UTC

Mine: "The next time a recruiter pings you, ask them how much you're worth."

https://medium.com/@calcsam/the-next-time-a-recruiter-pings-...

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by kenrikm » Fri, May 22, 2015, 2:56 PM UTC

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

9. I disagree you're wasting everyone's time if the numbers are way too far apart. I.E they would like to pay 80k+ Options when you're currently @ 130k + Vested Options.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by mathgeek » Fri, May 22, 2015, 2:57 PM UTC

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

> You should be more interested in the opportunity not the exact pay. This looks like a money grab. Having a good career is more important than a dollar figure.

If you're already in a position that you enjoy, the dollar figure is certainly one of, if not the most important items on a cold call job offer. Asking them to open the discussion with a rough number is more than fair, in my book.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by sqldba » Fri, May 22, 2015, 3:02 PM UTC

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

"Opportunity"! Opportunity to work for less while the recruiter sits there earning a fat fee for merely passing on my resume? No thanks.

I love how everyone thinks their job is some amazing opportunity but won't back it up with something useful you can put towards maybe buying a place to live, like money.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by oacgnol » Fri, May 22, 2015, 3:03 PM UTC

dorfsmay wrote: post #18

Are recruiters that big of an issue for you guys? I do not get that many emails/contacts from recruiters, and I find a quick polite email exchange or one phone call allows to quickly clarify the situation and we're done. I actually welcome recruiters contacting me, it keeps me in the loop of what's going, market rate etc... and sometime help me finding new gigs. EDIT: It seems that where you are located makes a big d…

I agree wholeheartedly with you, to me it's a form of humblebragging. It's definitely a nice thing to be in high demand and 'complaining' about recruiters knocking down the door seems so arrogant and unaware.

The low quality spam I can do without, but it's never anything to whine about, filter and move on if it's a problem.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by ryan-c » Fri, May 22, 2015, 3:06 PM UTC

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

Re asking recruiters about salary - it's about not wasting everyone's time. If someone's happy with their current job and would need a substantial pay increase to consider leaving it, then it is a waste of both their time and the recruiters time if the salary requirements can't be met. I would change that field's description to include "approximate", though.

The most negative reaction I've ever gotten to something like "I'm happy with my job, and it would take a salary somewhere in the ballpark of $X to tempt me away, is that feasible?" was "If you're making anywhere near $X now I'm impressed.". The number I give for $X varies a little depending on their pitch - for example it goes up by at least $100k if they mention that they're looking for someone manage compliance for PCI-DSS, HIPPA, SOX or similar.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by rrrx3 » Fri, May 22, 2015, 3:07 PM UTC

kenrikm wrote: post #24

rilita wrote: post #20

Regarding your choice of fields: 1. Name - This is already in emails I get from recruiters 2. Email - Useful since LinkedIn emails typically don't include their actual email 3. Phone Number - Ditto to #1; they typically include it 4. How did you find me - Considering you stated this is in reply to LinkedIn recruiters; LinkedIn?? ... 5. Name of the company - Most recruiters will not share this information until you ha…

9. I disagree you're wasting everyone's time if the numbers are way too far apart. I.E they would like to pay 80k+ Options when you're currently @ 130k + Vested Options.

Agree with this. Most recruiters just spam. If you reply and theres a 50k spread on what you need vs what they're offering, time has been wasted on both parts.

Re: Show HN: My reply to LinkedIn recruiters

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Post by 3princip » Fri, May 22, 2015, 3:11 PM UTC

dorfsmay wrote: post #18

Are recruiters that big of an issue for you guys? I do not get that many emails/contacts from recruiters, and I find a quick polite email exchange or one phone call allows to quickly clarify the situation and we're done. I actually welcome recruiters contacting me, it keeps me in the loop of what's going, market rate etc... and sometime help me finding new gigs. EDIT: It seems that where you are located makes a big d…

It seems to have gotten a lot worse lately, and the recruiters all seem to copy each other now:

Recruiter: You seem to be a perfect candidate for job A.

Really? That's nice. I'll read on to see the offer...

Recruiter: The position is a senior role using X, Y, Z

Wait a minute, I don't use X, I've only seen Y once and haven't worked in Z for years. What makes this person think I'm right for this position?

Recruiter: Can you send me your resume.

Oh, I see. CV scraping. They collect them for their portfolio I guess, or sell them on or something. It really isn't worth replying if they couldn't even be bothered to read the Linkedin profile they sent a message to, from which it would have been clear that I am in no way a perfect or appropriate candidate for said position.