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Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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I never quite got why it's ok for the stupid hackathon projects to be negative, demeaning, and have NSFW content, even though these things are completely verboten in every other tech event. Is there some kind of certification[0] that the hackathon organizers got to be allowed to do this? EDIT: [0] What I meant was that it is as if organizations like this hackathon have some kind of certification that allows them to h…

... Do we have to censor everything now?

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Actually yeah this basically crossed my mind as well. I was thinking more that it should be part of Ubuntu by default. In the traditional market, the loops of funding things are more or less closed. If you want something you pay for it and therefore fund it. If it doesn't get enough funding, it's because it's priced incorrectly, or it's not desired. The Free Software gift economy, for all its benefits in the area of user freedom, is entirely missing these price signals. See: Werner Koch. There has to be something to remind us who exactly we should be paying if we are so inclined.

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is this any of negative, demeaning, or NSFW?

see http://stupidhackathon.github.io/ and http://www.stupidhackathon.com/ and also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9521510

Given the comment you've just linked there leads with "This hackathon is a good example of the hypocrisy of the progressive movement", and you think "hackathon" is some sort of brand name requiring certification ... I urge you to consider the possibility that the problem lies not in the rest of the world outside yourself.

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Does it work with scripts as well? E.g. if I run a makefile, will my gcc fees go through the roof? Maybe it should have safety warnings. The real killer feature would be a periodic upload of your transaction database to the cloud. You could call it "OneGNU". The possibilities are endless.

Yes, it does! This basically overrides the path to the commands and MITMs the pricing counter.

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There certainly are tech events that not shy away from such things, as much as there are hackathons that do not like such projects. Also, most hackathons don't select the projects beforehand, whereas other events have to explain why they selected "bad" content.

What other tech events did you have in mind? And if you check out the hackathons website [0] and the previous hackathon [1], they are showcasing exactly the offensive content that I was describing in my post. [0] http://stupidhackathon.github.io/ [1] http://www.stupidhackathon.com/

If you name your Hackathon "Stupid Shit No One Needs & Terrible Ideas Hackathon", I think it's perfectly acceptable to allow slightly NSFW content. And I don't agree anything there was overly negative or demeaning, it was all healthy satire.

We don't have to hold every single developer event to the same standards as a Microsoft developer conference (which themselves don't always set high standards [1]). There are places for being serious, but there also have to be places where we can have fun and introspect with some lighthearted satire.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zww2ivWdLas

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

see http://stupidhackathon.github.io/ and http://www.stupidhackathon.com/ and also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9521510

Given the comment you've just linked there leads with "This hackathon is a good example of the hypocrisy of the progressive movement", and you think "hackathon" is some sort of brand name requiring certification ... I urge you to consider the possibility that the problem lies not in the rest of the world outside yourself.

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Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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post #2

I never quite got why it's ok for the stupid hackathon projects to be negative, demeaning, and have NSFW content, even though these things are completely verboten in every other tech event. Is there some kind of certification[0] that the hackathon organizers got to be allowed to do this? EDIT: [0] What I meant was that it is as if organizations like this hackathon have some kind of certification that allows them to h…

How is this any of negative, demeaning, or NSFW?

On the website[0], there are some examples of completed projects that appear to be overly sexual in nature; I think that's why formulaT was talking about things being NSFW. [0] http://www.stupidhackathon.com/

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What other tech events did you have in mind? And if you check out the hackathons website [0] and the previous hackathon [1], they are showcasing exactly the offensive content that I was describing in my post. [0] http://stupidhackathon.github.io/ [1] http://www.stupidhackathon.com/

If you name your Hackathon "Stupid Shit No One Needs & Terrible Ideas Hackathon", I think it's perfectly acceptable to allow slightly NSFW content. And I don't agree anything there was overly negative or demeaning, it was all healthy satire. We don't have to hold every single developer event to the same standards as a Microsoft developer conference (which themselves don't always set high standards [1]). There are pla…

I don't believe that the difference is serious vs non-serious events. It's pretty clear that no company or group would dare to create a light hearted hackathon featuring sexual content, if it hadn't been proposed first by a progressive cause (in this case mocking startup culture for being a White cishet male bubble). And Microsoft apologized for that song[0]. Note that this event is sponsored by real tech companies.

Here is the content I thought would be considered offensive it it didn't come from a progressive source (repeated from [1]):

Here are some examples from the previous New York hackathon [2]:

Sexual content:

Golden Bitcoin Pasties, Focus Tools, Collaborative Fuck Bike, E.T. Strapon, Sado-Masochistic Macrame Planter, Tinder For Babies, "ok glass, vomit"

Making fun of mental health/development issues:

Stupid Font

Body shaming and objectification:

Intellectual Babes Calendar

And here are some prize categories in the current hackathon that are similarly offensive:

Peter Thiel, Scatological APIs, Targetting The "Hikikomori" Space

[0] http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-apologizes-for-cringe...

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9521510

[2] http://www.stupidhackathon.com/

Re: Show HN: Turn GNU command line tools into SaaS – Stupid Hackathon Project

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FYI, the fake announcement post was really fun to write:

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$150 million investment from Andreessen Horowitz!

We are extremely excited to announce our new funding from some long time friends in venture capital, Andreessen Horowitz. They lead a $150 million dollar private equity round at a $52 billion dollar valuation, which we will use to start generating revenue and take our software to the next level.

"We've scaled enough. It's time to monetize." -Richard Stallman, Founder, FSF

As part of this deal, we will begin to add per-use fees to many of the popular GNU software we maintain, such as "ls", "dd", "cat", "grep", and many more. You can check out our pricing update and documentation on Github. Supported tools now include a "--pricing" flag so you can keep track of how much you owe us. For example, you can type "gcc --pricing" to get the amount you owe from compiling all those continuous integration deployments.

"GNU is sitting on a hundred billion dollar opportunity, and I'm really excited they are capitalizing on it." -Sam Altman, YCombinator

Thanks very much to all of our current contributers that have made this step possible. If it weren't for the hard work of you, we wouldn't be able have such an incredible position in the market and rich go-to-market strategy. As part of this fundrasing, we will be setting aside 10% of the investment to give back to the community that have made us so very, very happy.

"They got embedded in all the huge enterprise companies on the backs of volunteers! Now they can flip on the revenue stream. I really respect Richard for his cutthroat business strategy." -Larry Ellison, Oracle

Unfortunately, some long time friends in the Linux community will not be joining us in our journey, namely the Linux kernel, so we will be using $50 million from this funding to complete the GNU Hurd kernel on an accelerated timeline so that our current users don't experience any interruption of service.

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https://diafygi.github.io/gnu-pricing/website/

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