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Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#22

These types of projects are all really awesome; I just wish they would support RestructuredText.

SageMathCloud (https://cloud.sagemath.com) has similar functionality (collaborative editing, preview) and supports restructured text. To try it, create an account, project, and new file that ends in .rst. It renders the rst server-side using rst2html in Linux, so isn't instant (since not in Javascript) -- are there any good rst to html converters written in Javascript? SMC also runs aspell (server side) when the file is saved. Here's a screenshot: http://wstein.org/misc/smc-rst.png of https://cloud.sagemath.com/projects/4a5f0542-5873-4eed-a85c-...

(Disclaimer: I started SageMathCloud and SageMath. SageMath uses Sphinx for documentation, hence we care about RestructuredText editing.)

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#23
I've played a bit and it looks really interesting.

I see you currently support saving the fiddles to dropbox. Do you plan to add other storage systems?

I'm thinking it would be great to use that along with github to write documentation or even websites using jekyll.

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#24

These types of projects are all really awesome; I just wish they would support RestructuredText.

No offense and all (I'm a huge python guy) but... why? RST is a pretty god damn awful format. Markdown lacks a proper standard but that's really the only problem with it... I wish the python community would just adopt Markdown for good and stop trying so hard with rst.

And here I thought I was alone on this. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who things RST is terrible.

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

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We're working on fixing that now. It should be back up very soon! Edit: It's back. Thanks for the patience.

Great! Looks very good! :) Although, table-support seems to be very limited. The table is generated correctly, but it doesn't look nice enough . Take a look at LightPaper for inspiration.

Definitely something that we missed. Thank you so much for pointing it out!

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

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post #15
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're working on fixing that now. It should be back up very soon! Edit: It's back. Thanks for the patience.

Great! Looks very good! :) Although, table-support seems to be very limited. The table is generated correctly, but it doesn't look nice enough . Take a look at LightPaper for inspiration.

The HTML generated correctly, but the actual table didn't render at all in the preview for me. Text was aligned...sort of, but there was zero white space, and no dividers. Maybe it's simply my rusty MD skills.

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#27

These types of projects are all really awesome; I just wish they would support RestructuredText.

No offense and all (I'm a huge python guy) but... why? RST is a pretty god damn awful format. Markdown lacks a proper standard but that's really the only problem with it... I wish the python community would just adopt Markdown for good and stop trying so hard with rst.

I've wondered about the same question, and I also personally greatly prefer markdown. I got into Python in 2002, and my recollection is that RST was introduced a few years before Markdown. Thus RST was more mature than Markdown at the time when Python documentation was a disaster zone and people were looking around for technology on which to build Sphinx. So I think RST versus Markdown for Python is more or less a "historical accident"; by now, there's a massive amount of documentation in RST, and it's too hard to switch everybody over. This situation reminds me somewhat of how Python uses Mercurial instead Git (see [1]); many years ago it was unclear whether Mercurial or Git would "win", and in fact many people (at least myself included, with SageMath!) thought incorrectly that Mercurial would win. Hindsight is 20/20, and fixing making the wrong bet on which technology will win can be extremely painful (at least it was very hard for us to switch SageMath from Mercurial to Git).

[1] https://docs.python.org/devguide/faq.html#where-can-i-learn-...

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#28
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I'm a fan of this - elegant and simple way to make markdown more accessible to those who would otherwise shy away from it's learning curve

Thank you for the comment! The project actually started as we were building a tool to teach people Markdown a la Codecademy. We realized this probably does an equally good job at that too.

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#29
Shameless plug: I worked on a similar tool mdocs [1]. The main difference is that is opensource, it supports authentication and authorization [2] similar to Google Docs. The authorization part allows you to share documents at company level.

It is a 100% client-side application, it uses Firebase as backend and Auth0 for authentication.

[1] https://auth0.github.io/mdocs2

[2] https://dl.dropbox.com/s/w6bmji4t698v8qn/ss-2015-03-25T10-40...

Re: Show HN: Fiddle.md – a collaborative writing tool by Swipe

#30
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What about user accounts where we can keep track of Fiddles, so we can organize them with tags and categories?

That's definitely something we'd want to add. At the moment we wanted to release an MVP and see if people like it before adding accounts and other features. We didn't think it was crucial to getting the core experience with the product, but we're going to keep improving it over time. For now, you could save locally or to Dropbox to avoid losing revisions. Thank you for the comment, I'd recommend signing up to the mailing list to hear about when things like accounts would launch.
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