Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by cmor » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 5:03 PM UTC

Roritharr wrote: post #20

Something from a company based in Frankfurt on the Frontpage! Congratulations guys!

Yeah, thank you! :)

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by teleclimber » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 5:40 PM UTC

progx wrote: post #12

Are there some case studies or examples? It look pretty cool, but I have no idea what i should do with Structr.

Ditto! I don't have the time to watch a 46 minute video.

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by kolev » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 5:52 PM UTC

kolev wrote: post #3

This is not even open-source. Not interested!

Why are you downvoting? I made a mistake, I apologized, my feedback was accepted.

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by fideloper » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:03 PM UTC

Calling this a CMS platform I think is misleading me into wondering what a graph database's use is in something used to "just show content".

It sounds like it's able to do fancy things with rendering pages quickly, but...so what?

The Github explanation says "It was designed to simplify the creation of complex graph database applications" - a generic platform built around a graph database makes more sense.

So my question is - Is this a CMS or a platform for building applications? Is the graph database cool because it can do fancy things for rendering content, or because you can use it to build relationship models for users of applications using Structr for RAD-style dev?

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by zubairq » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 6:20 PM UTC

Very nice. Alot of Neo4j tools are starting to popup. I'm making a real time framework like meteor too for Neo4j, available here:

https://github.com/zubairq/coils

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by amorgner » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 7:04 PM UTC

fideloper wrote: post #24

Calling this a CMS platform I think is misleading me into wondering what a graph database's use is in something used to "just show content". It sounds like it's able to do fancy things with rendering pages quickly, but...so what? The Github explanation says "It was designed to simplify the creation of complex graph database applications" - a generic platform built around a graph database makes more sense. So my quest…

True, it's hard to find the right category for it, so we call it "Data CMS". For some people, the CMS part might just be a nice add-on and the real value is the embedded graph database and the in-graph data model. Many web applications are 80% CRUD-style pages and maybe 20% (complex) queries, so using Structr for the CRUD pages and Neo4j's Cypher for the queries is a perfect fit imho.

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by amorgner » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 7:09 PM UTC

teleclimber wrote: post #22

progx wrote: post #12

Are there some case studies or examples? It look pretty cool, but I have no idea what i should do with Structr.

Ditto! I don't have the time to watch a 46 minute video.

The screencast is based on a talk I gave at NoSQL matters in Cologne this year. I know we need to add better videos, but we're just hackers. Will do our best.

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by dreamfactory2 » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 8:57 PM UTC

Seems like it's trying to do too much. Webdav/CMIS feels dated, let alone for a roadmap. Widget exchange can require a huge community to be worth the effort. However, the performance and data binding really stand out and could have huge value.

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by amorgner » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 9:21 PM UTC

thecolorblue wrote: post #9

thecolorblue wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/structr/structr It looks like it is open source, but I feel that the structr.org website should talk more about the open source project, and a structr.com website should focus on the business. Right now, looking at structr.org, I don't see anything about the open source project. It just looks like a sales pitch to me.

I should say, the project looks great, and I will definitely be trying it out.

Thank you! :-)

Re: Show HN: Structr - Next-Generation Data CMS Based on Neo4j

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Post by amorgner » Wed, Sep 17, 2014, 9:28 PM UTC

thecolorblue wrote: post #6

kolev wrote: post #3

This is not even open-source. Not interested!

https://github.com/structr/structr It looks like it is open source, but I feel that the structr.org website should talk more about the open source project, and a structr.com website should focus on the business. Right now, looking at structr.org, I don't see anything about the open source project. It just looks like a sales pitch to me.

It is open source, and we changed the frontpage to make it more clear.

Regarding structr.org/structr.com, I agree. We will make structr.com the commercial site in the future while turning structr.org into a site for the community.

And on the sales pitch: It's somewhat intended as we need some commercial customers from time to time, not being backed by big investors.