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Re: Show HN: Improve Your Writing – Grammar and Writing for Creators

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I dislike things like this. There are tons of FREE, valuable resources online about grammar and writing. Why pay for this book? There is no reason. There isn't anything special about writing for "creators" -- and if there is, this author hasn't shown capability. Just look at the bullet points. They all end with a semi-colon. While that can be grammatically correct, there are many accepted versions here and a semi-col…

"Elements of Style" by Strunk (Not Strunk and White) is in the public domain.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/37134

Re: Show HN: Improve Your Writing – Grammar and Writing for Creators

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Writing can be fun, grammar is just one constraint we leverage during writing, and easily bent to meet primeval rhythm requirements. Writing is like composing music, it is written conversation that flows as if you were talking through the paper, with additional constraints to match the medium. The best way to become good at writing is to do it a lot and receive lots of critique. Style and grammar guides aren't very u…

The best example of this that we're all likely to know is "Think Different" vs "Think Differently". > The best way to become good at writing is to do it a lot and receive lots of critique. Don't forget to read a lot! (and from a diverse set of writers too!)

If we are talking about technical blog style writing, only a few people write well at all, even out of those that have actual readers; in academic writing, it is even more depressing. Better to develop a critical eye that can recognize good and bad writing.

Re: Show HN: Improve Your Writing – Grammar and Writing for Creators

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The first bullet point reads "Learn all the important elementary to advanced rules and errors." How many of you had to re-read it at least once, or rescan mid-sentence, to understand? I won't even discuss the second bullet point: "Write skilfully, and write powerful and eloquent blog posts, books, and more." It's quite disturbing to see this language in a guide that is all about grammar, writing, and the importance o…

> It's quite disturbing to see this language in a guide that is all about grammar, writing, and the importance of being well-understood.

The Elements of Style by Strunk and White is hated by grammarians for the same reason.

Re: Show HN: Improve Your Writing – Grammar and Writing for Creators

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I am the author, and I will try to address some of the comments:

1. First, if you buy and read the book, your writing will definitely improve. You will write better than you ever have. I am confident you will. Those tiny grammar books on amazon.com wouldn't help much because many don't cover the crucial topics for writing well. I read nearly all of them.

2. Language is instinctual, so arguing about grammatical rules is pointless. Take this passage from my book: "I agree with Steven Pinker, as he describes in his book "The Language Instinct," that humans have an instinct to learn and use language, and some nonstandard grammars and dialects perceived to be unsophisticated and ungrammatical (Appalachian English Vernacular and Black English Vernacular, for example) do, in fact, follow sophisticated grammatical rules.

I will not hurl even a pebble of criticism to anyone who uses English grammar to his or her own inclination. Instead, this book helps people who want to improve their Standard American English and Standard British English grammar. By “standard,” I mean the form used in academia, mainstream businesses and books, and formal and informal writing aimed at the general public or educated readers.

3. For the first bullet, I combined two similar bullets into one, hence the possible oddity. I constructed it for brevity, not for eloquence. No need to niggle over a bullet; it's a peccadillo. Incidentally, I wrote an entire chapter on how to write eloquent prose.

4. Ztratar, I presume you would agree that books are not useless. While anyone can probably learn anything online, books are still usually more organized and better researched than disparate articles and blog posts spread across hundreds of websites. In fact, to my knowledge, about half of the content in my book cannot be found online. I have devised some new grammatical constructions and techniques for writing skillfully.

5. Icambron, you should definitely read my book. You will learn a lot. For example, you will learn that all those things you pointed out are actually grammar myths (aka superstitions). I have an entire section on myths that many people believe are legitimate rules of grammar. Many such myths abound even in schools, including college. You should read the following article, a section from my book; you may find some of the cool sentence constructions quite different from the prosaic and formulaic constructions taught in schools: https://grammarandwritingforcreators.com/Creative_Powerful_W...

5. Seanmcdirmid, I wrote an entire section on the rhythm and euphony of sentences, another topic rarely found in grammar books. You can read this new figure of speech that I have devised (unrelated to rhythm, but all the examples employ rhythm): https://grammarandwritingforcreators.com/Conceal_Reveal_Arti...

Re: Show HN: Improve Your Writing – Grammar and Writing for Creators

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I am the author, and I will try to address some of the comments: 1. First, if you buy and read the book, your writing will definitely improve. You will write better than you ever have. I am confident you will. Those tiny grammar books on amazon.com wouldn't help much because many don't cover the crucial topics for writing well. I read nearly all of them. 2. Language is instinctual, so arguing about grammatical rules…

I read through you new figure of speech, and I don't see why you class it as a figure of speech. Wikipedia defines a figure of speech as "A figure of speech is the use of a word or a phrase, which transcends its literal interpretation. It can be a special repetition, arrangement or omission of words with literal meaning, or a phrase with a specialized meaning not based on the literal meaning of the words in it, as in idiom, metaphor, simile, hyperbole, personification, or synecdoche." From what I read in your explanation of your idea, you've just creates a phrase with a literal meaning. Would you care to explain further why you regard it as a figure of speech?
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