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Show HN: Siri, open the garage
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#22This post got nailed by the voting ring detector, but I'm restoring it because we want to see original work on HN. A "voting ring" is when people get friends to upvote their stuff. This is against the rules. We want stories to be on HN because they're good, not because they were promoted. It's sadly common for a great Show HN post to get demoted because its creators, eager to get it on the front page, tried to game i…
Which do you think is more likely: - I know! We'll set up a voting ring to game my blog post about a garage door opener onto the front page of Hacker News, even though I don't get any kind of benefit aside from exposure to my cool project! - Hey $socialnetwork friends, check it out, I submitted last weekend's project that you helped me on to Hacker News!, followed by folks finding the link there upvoting it because i…
Option 2 is literally a voting ring. Why else would somebody tweet about the empty HN discussion thread they've created?
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#23There is SiriProxy[1] which lets you respond to arbitrary commands by proxying requests to the Siri backend. Apparently doesn't work with iOS 7 yet unfortunately.
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#24BAD ASS! I see in the near future a folder named "commands," on your iPhone filled with long name apps just for automation. Are you using https or some type of SSH keys to authenticate? I know you said your running wired instead of wireless, but it sounds like you have to run some type of lightweight server to listen to the http requests. I guess you could just port forward/trigger internally through the router.
Thanks man! Currently it's security through obscurity... so not great. I'll make the arduino only accept requests with a token next weekend. Yeah if you take a look at the arduino code on github it's a super light http server. Currently I just do port forwarding to access it.
Of course even if you require a token, it doesn't stop replay attacks.
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#25A team at PennApps had a project [1] which used a DNS-override to take advantage of the fact that Siri defaults to Googling things when it doesn't have a native approach. They could then parse these requests and see if they could do something cool without before going ahead and just Googling it. The example they used in the demo was controlling a Phillips Hue light with Siri commands. I thought this was awesome, one of the better hackathon demos I've ever seen. There really should be an easier way to do this an spoofing Google DNS, which I'm not comfortable with even though I trust these guys.
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#26Nice hack! Could you elaborate on why arduino + ethernet shield will be a better choice than raspberry pi + wifi? I'm genuinely curious because I've been looking at both for a hardware project and would love to know the advantages (and gotchas) of both approaches. :-)
Entirely familiarity. I had used Restuino and Arduino a lot before :)
I wanted to do this as quickly as possible rather than playing around with Linux and learning a new framework!
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#27> I then jokingly opened siri and said “Open the garage”. Siri responded with “I can’t find an app named ‘The Garage’”. Lightbulbs went off. We realized we could get around the fact that Siri has no API by making apps named the phrases we’d like to recognize. Priceless! I wish Siri had an API though.
I feel like this has to come with iOS 8 for Apple to stay competitive against Google Now.
Also to compete with Cortana on windows phone, which lets you register voice commands to run specific apps and provide it input [1].
[1] http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014/2-530 - Integrating Your App into the Windows Phone Speech Experience
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#28This post got nailed by the voting ring detector, but I'm restoring it because we want to see original work on HN. A "voting ring" is when people get friends to upvote their stuff. This is against the rules. We want stories to be on HN because they're good, not because they were promoted. It's sadly common for a great Show HN post to get demoted because its creators, eager to get it on the front page, tried to game i…
Which do you think is more likely: - I know! We'll set up a voting ring to game my blog post about a garage door opener onto the front page of Hacker News, even though I don't get any kind of benefit aside from exposure to my cool project! - Hey $socialnetwork friends, check it out, I submitted last weekend's project that you helped me on to Hacker News!, followed by folks finding the link there upvoting it because i…
Neither we nor our software can tell much (if anything) about intent from the data, but I certainly don't think it's always malicious—I know for a fact that it's not.
The ring detection algorithms are vital to the quality of HN. I've looked at a tremendous amount of data on this, and I don't think it supports your interpretation. But certainly the algorithms and moderators both make mistakes. As I mentioned above, I think I may have a way to compensate for that, but I don't know when we'll be able to implement it.
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#29This post got nailed by the voting ring detector, but I'm restoring it because we want to see original work on HN. A "voting ring" is when people get friends to upvote their stuff. This is against the rules. We want stories to be on HN because they're good, not because they were promoted. It's sadly common for a great Show HN post to get demoted because its creators, eager to get it on the front page, tried to game i…
Which do you think is more likely: - I know! We'll set up a voting ring to game my blog post about a garage door opener onto the front page of Hacker News, even though I don't get any kind of benefit aside from exposure to my cool project! - Hey $socialnetwork friends, check it out, I submitted last weekend's project that you helped me on to Hacker News!, followed by folks finding the link there upvoting it because i…
Um, actually I believe that dang's post is him literally saying that cases of Option 2 are mistakenly classified as Option 1, and that this is unfortunate. And that people should know about the voting ring detector so they don't accidentally trigger it. Oh and that in his spare time he is working on a better detector.
Having a voting ring detector is a good thing. It is no doubt hard to tell organic friendly votes apart from sophisticated voting ring bots, and lots of good posts probably get flagged for this. But without such a detector, there would be a programmatic way to ensure posts get to the top of HN, which defeats the whole voting system.
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#30That duct tape... and electrical stuff hanging off the ceiling... makes me cringe! EEs in my dad's company used to call that kind of project an "ikebana." :-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikebana
Our housemates seem to have decided that it's just over the border of the tradeoff between convenience and fear :)