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Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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"10x represents the best freelance programmers and designers" not to be too snooty, but couldn't they get one of their best design freelancers to give their site a bit of a makeover?

Some of the fonts are rendering strangely for me in Windows Chrome 25. The anti-aliasing is chunky. Not sure if it's some TrueType thing, it's been a while since I've had to work with such problems.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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post #22

"10x represents the best freelance programmers and designers" not to be too snooty, but couldn't they get one of their best design freelancers to give their site a bit of a makeover?

Some of the fonts are rendering strangely for me in Windows Chrome 25. The anti-aliasing is chunky. Not sure if it's some TrueType thing, it's been a while since I've had to work with such problems.

I think he was talking about Bootstrap. This is a good example of when it's not the best choice.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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Odd that there's not a lawyer among the listed leaders. They say they'll bring in lawyers "if necessary." Aren't most agencies for artists or athletes packed with lawyers? If I'm hiring you as my agent, I'd think that at least half your job would be the contract part of it.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to elaborate?

The reason artists have agents is so they can get work. Because there are more artists than paid work. Programmers are in such demand that one does not need for such thing. Thus, this kind of service popping up signals that there is so much frees money flowing around (the bubble) that people are looking for ways to grab a bunch and runaway. Let's be honest here. Aside from the ego stroking of having an agent, what va…

Under http://www.10xmanagement.com/#what_we_do

Contract negotiation, scheduling, planning, invoicing. Basically all the paperwork + customer relations, you just do the work. I don't know what their fee is, but if they do this right it could be worth it.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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1) More important than deal flow, I could see myself working with something like that if it increased my hourly rate, and if it did so substantially. I am 100% positive that most of the jobs/projects I got into I left money on the table because I didn't want to put too much effort in the negotiation process and just wanted to work on interesting things.

So it would be great if something like that managed to work as a market force to push things up. However, these guys would have to be completely transparent, pretty much like we see sport athletes getting their contracts disclosed, all of their "stars" would have each of their signed projects on a billboard, complete with stats and metrics of performance.

If it increased my rate by 20%, I wouldn't do it. Promise me that I would be able to live in New York and make $300-$400k/year without having to get into finance, and I could give them 10-20% of it easily.

2) Apologies in advance for my blatant stereotyping, but I couldn't help noticing that most if not all names of the guys leading this are Jewish. Coupled with the "Here's your Ari Gold" comment it makes me wonder, why is this such a Jewish-dominated field?

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

10% would be on the low side for either a recruitment agency or, to run with the Ari Gold analogy, a talent agent. 15% would be more realistic, although I see recruiters trying to charge considerably more. Unscrupulous recruiters often will try to hide how much their cut is from their freelancers.

Recruiters for contractors in the UK generally take 20%, i've caught agencies try to take more.

As more big firms opt for management comapnies such as ResourceSolutions, this is been driven firmly down. Often its below 3% for people who've been on site 18+ months.

The worst thing about RS (guess which side I'm on!) is that they advise on rate reductions. As they are often working with your competitors too, they can effectively advise that a 10% hair cut is OK because OtherBank just did a n% cut.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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This 10x elitism is total bull. I'm sure the top programmers are 10x better than the worst, but there's a vast spectrum in between. The 10x notion implies that there's the worst, the good, the better, then a massive chasm, the up on the mountaintop there are "the 10xers". I'm not buying it.

Re: Show HN: Announcing 10x Management

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you care to elaborate?

The reason artists have agents is so they can get work. Because there are more artists than paid work. Programmers are in such demand that one does not need for such thing. Thus, this kind of service popping up signals that there is so much frees money flowing around (the bubble) that people are looking for ways to grab a bunch and runaway. Let's be honest here. Aside from the ego stroking of having an agent, what va…

I have a friend, a Thiel fellow actually, who for personal reasons is no longer pursuing his project. He is extremely talented and creative, but, despite his credibility, ability and connections, he swears by these people because they take all the bullshit out of the equation and just let him focus on what he wants to do right now which is get paid the most money possible to work on the most interesting and intellectually stimulating projects he can. Why is that so offensive to you?
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