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Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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> "No AI features" > Sees "Claude" Now almost 90% of projects on GitHub including existing projects are now slop or are adding slop. Many projects are getting contaminated with AI, and even Linux is getting contaminated with this. There is a list of projects that have non-slop alternatives one can use instead. https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware

I mean yeah, I have 2 kids under 1. So I wasn’t gonna spend the 100+ hours doing it all by hand. The project either gets made using AI or not at all.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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It's interesting that it brags about no AI as a feature, but the website (and maybe the product itself?) was clearly built using AI.

Yep, I have 2 kids under 1 so this project is either built with AI or it’s not built. I put that line in because the IDE aspect doesn’t need agent management or anything. Other tools are better for that.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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post #9

Vim does have mouse support.

And so does Emacs. I don’t think this person has really used them.

Making these kinds of AI projects with fancy READMEs give you a veneer of authority, but the lack of earned wisdom tends to stick out once a few people glance at it.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

#25

It's interesting that it brags about no AI as a feature, but the website (and maybe the product itself?) was clearly built using AI.

Yep, I have 2 kids under 1 so this project is either built with AI or it’s not built. I put that line in because the IDE aspect doesn’t need agent management or anything. Other tools are better for that.

Irish twins! congratulations :)

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And so does Emacs. I don’t think this person has really used them.

Making these kinds of AI projects with fancy READMEs give you a veneer of authority, but the lack of earned wisdom tends to stick out once a few people glance at it.

Yeah maybe not the best wording. It’s more meant that ideally toast can be fully used with a cursor for interactions. I don’t think you can exit vim or emacs just by clicking on a button?

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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vim has a built in file tree. You didn't even proof-read your readme. Christ.

Poor wording, more so meant that when I drop into vim, vi, or emacs I have no way to (without some external knowledge) know how to open a file tree. Just a barrier to usage is all.

Re: Show HN: Toast, a beautiful by default in terminal IDE

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The "Emacs doesn't have a file-tree" is when I stopped short and wondered what this person's background is in IDEs. My emacs days are 1999 during my "functional or get out" phase, but my .emacs had close to 4000 lines in it, including xterm mouse support, a clone of midnight commander + sftp to a wehbost and deep integration with ctags/cscope/c++filt. There was even a line by line debugger with custom .gdbinit comman…

Sigh.

Long time ago, in mid-2000-s I tried to switch to Emacs or Vim from Visual Studio.

I wanted to have a simple project file tree as a side panel and multiple editor tabs on the right. I spent a week toying with various elisp scripts, Vim plugins, and digging out information from a then-moribund XEmacs mailing list.

And I couldn't do what I wanted in the end. Nothing worked seamlessly or reliably.

Can this be done out-of-the-box now?

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