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Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by reaperducer »

perryprog wrote: post #5
7839284023 wrote: post #3

Awesome! Thank you for the update. I noticed that homebrew updated _all_ my casks when running 'brew upgrade' (even those with "auto_updates: true" in their Cask JSON API). Is this intended, new default behavior? This did not use to happen...

You need to set HOMEBREW_NO_UPGRADE_AUTO_UPDATES_CASKS to 1, as alluded to by a hint when it (first?) occurs. This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. See also: https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during...

This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer.

When you instruct the system not to tell you things, the system not telling you those things is a bummer?

If I could get more of the tech I interact with to stop doing things I didn't ask it to, it would reduce a lot of stress and wasted time.

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by vitorsr »

Thanks for all the hard work.

We are not many [1], but Homebrew has been a great way to quickly bootstrap an environment in immutable Linux distributions.

Note that certain operating systems such as Universal Blue's Bazzite (1.28%), Bluefin (0.49%) and Aurora (0.28%) default to bundling Homebrew [2].

[1] https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/os-version/365d/

[2] https://github.com/ublue-os/brew

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by bigyabai »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #13

Personally I stopped using Homebrew after I got screwed too many times on mandatory upgrades that I couldn't pin. I use a combination of Mise and MacPorts now so I don't get any more surprise breakage and forced obsolescence. Plus Mise allows me to upgrade to any new version, whereas with Homebrew you have to wait for whenever the tap feels like upgrading (llama.cpp tap skips every 10 releases)

Nix is also worth checking out, even if the Darwin packaging is a bit flaky. I really appreciate having cross-platform devshells when I have to alternate between Mac and Linux on a regular basis.

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by hk__2 »

Hi Mike, I’m @bfontaine on GitHub (I helped maintain Homebrew in ~2014-2016). I’m always impressed at your longevity as a maintainer; it’s been like what, 16+ years you’ve been maintaining Homebrew and you’re still here, still shipping new features! Thank you for everything!

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

#25

Post by b33j0r »

broxit wrote: post #7

Thanks for the update. Is there any chance we can get some kind of cooldown mechanism in Homebrew? The only people I want to trust to quickly ship new code to my machine are Apple and my browser (which handles more untrusted input than anything else). For everything else (vscode and its extensions, npm, homebrew, and all the apps that self-update), I prefer to err on the side of waiting a few days. Some exceptional 0…

Most handle this by having release channels. You would `brew set-channel stable/edge`.

It annoyed me this week because I only had a few minutes to try elixir 1.20 after the announcement, and brew lagged behind. You can install erl and elixir by other means (I prefer to run my own toolchains) but it wasn’t worth doing in that moment.

Brew has or used to have a source option for some recipes and that basicallllly solves it too, if you squint.

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by hk__2 »

perryprog wrote: post #5
7839284023 wrote: post #3

Awesome! Thank you for the update. I noticed that homebrew updated _all_ my casks when running 'brew upgrade' (even those with "auto_updates: true" in their Cask JSON API). Is this intended, new default behavior? This did not use to happen...

You need to set HOMEBREW_NO_UPGRADE_AUTO_UPDATES_CASKS to 1, as alluded to by a hint when it (first?) occurs. This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer. See also: https://docs.brew.sh/FAQ#why-arent-some-apps-included-during...

> This means if you have hints off (via HOMEBREW_NO_ENV_HINTS) then I suspect you can start getting this behavior without warning which is a bummer.

I read this as "This means if you close your eyes you don’t see things, which is a bummer."

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by swingboy »

Interesting that the `brew-rs` experiment has concluded and didn't find much of a performance increase. I suppose that is expected though with a lot of the bottleneck being network IO?

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by mikemcquaid »

hk__2 wrote: post #24

Hi Mike, I’m @bfontaine on GitHub (I helped maintain Homebrew in ~2014-2016). I’m always impressed at your longevity as a maintainer; it’s been like what, 16+ years you’ve been maintaining Homebrew and you’re still here, still shipping new features! Thank you for everything!

17 in September. Thanks for all your great work at the time! Hope you’re well <3

Re: Show HN: Homebrew 6.0.0

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Post by LelouBil »

vitorsr wrote: post #22

Thanks for all the hard work. We are not many [1], but Homebrew has been a great way to quickly bootstrap an environment in immutable Linux distributions. Note that certain operating systems such as Universal Blue's Bazzite (1.28%), Bluefin (0.49%) and Aurora (0.28%) default to bundling Homebrew [2]. [1] https://formulae.brew.sh/analytics/os-version/365d/ [2] https://github.com/ublue-os/brew

I'm using nix on Bazzite, with home-manager
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