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Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by axus »

AmblingAvocado wrote: post #16

Coming at this as someone who has stepped away from coding more than once for multiple-year long stints due to various career choices - I think the concern of "skill rot" is overblown. I stopped writing C++ professionally in the early 2010's. I came back to it in the early 2020's and it was extremely easy to pick up. Less like riding a bike, more like driving a car. The car got better over the last 10 years, but it s…

Maybe it only applies to people at the top of their game; pro atheletes and musicians need regular practice, the rest of us can use most of our skills without that.

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by joshuat »

kakacik wrote: post #12
jubilanti wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're trying to imply that knowing fundamentals of programming is now as obsolete as knowing fundamentals of assembler: this is a dumb thought-terminating cliche that adds nothing to the discussion and I'm sick of seeing it constantly in these threads.

Do something helpful for community, don't want anything back, no ads, no monetization, for a change reader is not a product. Show it. Get shit on it by snarky depressed/envious folks. Internet at its worst.

I don't disagree that they're not getting the best reception, but a freemium product is hardly a new/rare thing.

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by royal__ »

royal__ wrote: post #15
djoume wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the feedback. What similar app are you thinking of?

Codecademy, Mimo, Enki. I'm not going to act like I know a lot about other options, and you do say that fata hits on more advanced topics which these may not. I do think you have a cool niche here that isn't being covered, maybe your landing page should include more information about the Duolingo-esque features? I just know that pulls me in a lot.

For the record, btw, id DID download your app and I am going to spend some time using it. Other commenters here are talking about how spaced repetition isn't what's important, which is true in the same sense that you can't just use Duolingo to learn a language. But that doesn't make it useless.

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by djoume »

dvt wrote: post #20

Engineering has never been, nor will it ever be, about "repetition" or "memorization." This is a relatively new fable invented by those that have participated in ritualistic interview hazing. Imo, there are, broadly speaking, two types of engineers: computer scientists, and programmers. Computer scientists do science. The end result is a new algorithm or theorem, and they work with lots of math, proof systems, formal…

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I agree that people have tendencies towards certain interests, I can't remember a time where I wasn't interested about computers, even long before I had access to one.

That being said, people are also inspired by other people or by products, and there are ways to make the learning more effective.

No tools is going to turn you into a good engineer, fata makes it easier to practice regularly and it's that practice that will make you improve your skills

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by djoume »

fabled-out wrote: post #17

This is very, very cool! Super impressed by what you've built. As a non-programmer who is now doing a lot of vibe coding for myself these days (and feeling very scared about which of my vibe coded things will just randomly break one day haha...) I feel like what I'm missing isn't necessary language syntax skills, but rather the higher-level planning/organization/architecture capabilities that a seasoned software engi…

Thank you. Try out this course and let me know what you think

https://fata.app/courses/archClean

For me I found that I learn best when I have a concrete use case.

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by djoume »

mrmartineau wrote: post #19

This is super cool and definitely something I can relate to. In fact, I recently built Reps, a daily coding puzzle, to help fight “skill rot” as you say. Try it out at https://reps.zander.wtf and let me know what you think.

Very nice! I went with a different approach so that 1) I could make it usable on a phone and 2) It could work with any programming language/framework

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by djoume »

royal__ wrote: post #23
royal__ wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Codecademy, Mimo, Enki. I'm not going to act like I know a lot about other options, and you do say that fata hits on more advanced topics which these may not. I do think you have a cool niche here that isn't being covered, maybe your landing page should include more information about the Duolingo-esque features? I just know that pulls me in a lot.

For the record, btw, id DID download your app and I am going to spend some time using it. Other commenters here are talking about how spaced repetition isn't what's important, which is true in the same sense that you can't just use Duolingo to learn a language. But that doesn't make it useless.

Completely agree and I tried to avoid the Duolingo approach which optimizes for "engagement" over learning. I would love to hear any feedback you have after using the app for a bit: djoume [at] fata.dev

Re: Show HN: Fata – Spaced repetition to fight skill rot from AI coding

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Post by djoume »

jraph wrote: post #26

I can envision a way or two of avoiding AI skill rot... which could involve just doing the work by yourself actually xD I hope you factor in the time you spend doing that spaced repetition thing when you evaluate your AI productivity boost...

I do ~10 minutes per day, wouldn't really make a difference in my AI productivity boost calculation (which 10-20% boost BTW)
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