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Show HN: Phantom – Open-source AI agent on its own VM that rewrites its config

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Re: Show HN: Phantom – Open-source AI agent on its own VM that rewrites its config

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Post by mcheemaa »

jaboostin wrote: post #19
mcheemaa wrote: post #12

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This is awesome to hear. The "I truly have no idea what the system or code looks like but it's been so much fun just letting it build" resonates hard. That's exactly the experience we had too. The "For People Who Don't Write Code" angle has been the biggest surprise for us. We had a non-technical user ask for a Chrome extension and the agent built it, packaged it as a zip, and sent the download link. No terminal, no…

Graphiti is interesting because it’s ingesting episodes (discord chat messages), extracting facts and relationships, and then allows the agent to query that back, keeping the relationships in tact. So rather than a flat list of vectors related to a search term, the agent can essentially walk from one fact/concept to another. While plain vector search says something exists, the edges in the graph denote how/why it exi…

Oh I actually just looked at Graphiti and it looks really cool. I will try to see if Phantom can utilize this. Great work you guys

Re: Show HN: Phantom – Open-source AI agent on its own VM that rewrites its config

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Post by TheProductAgent »

The self-tooling capability is the interesting part here, not the VM persistence.

The cost/governance question is real though. I've spent 15 years in product management and the pattern is always the same: autonomous systems that compound capabilities sound great until you need to explain to someone why it did what it did.

The gap isn't "can the agent build things" — it clearly can. The gap is: did it build the thing you actually needed? And how do you verify that at scale without manually reviewing every output?

Self-modifying config is a feature when it's right and a liability when it's wrong. The interesting design question is how you build the verification layer.

Re: Show HN: Phantom – Open-source AI agent on its own VM that rewrites its config

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Post by mcheemaa »

TheProductAgent wrote: post #22

The self-tooling capability is the interesting part here, not the VM persistence. The cost/governance question is real though. I've spent 15 years in product management and the pattern is always the same: autonomous systems that compound capabilities sound great until you need to explain to someone why it did what it did. The gap isn't "can the agent build things" — it clearly can. The gap is: did it build the thing…

We literally have a constitution of 3 LLMs trying to just keep that in check :)
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